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Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #7998534
11/19/23 02:42 PM
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He might as well return it at this point.

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #7998935
11/19/23 11:13 PM
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I want one now.

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Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #7998999
11/20/23 02:40 AM
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I enjoyed the book and I think ATA did an awesome job in putting it together. All I can say is that after studying the book I feel that it made me a better wolf trapper and it certainly helped shorten the learning curve.

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #7999005
11/20/23 03:13 AM
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I have the wolf manual but I’ve loaned it out. This is in the back of the ADF&G regulations. I wonder how many people this has helped or hurt over the years?

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Alder] #7999192
11/20/23 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Alder
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I have the wolf manual but I’ve loaned it out. This is in the back of the ADF&G regulations. I wonder how many people this has helped or hurt over the years?



For the life of me I cannot find what in there might be offensive (at least to an ethical trapper!) Perhaps Slick Pan could enlighten us if he gets a moment?

Pete

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Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8010867
12/03/23 11:02 PM
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I'll go one better Slick. I'll buy it off you for double what you paid if you autograph it. I also lent mine out years ago but want to have a copy to keep as a memento next to my copy of the Pennsylvania trappers manual circa 1980ish. Like the PA guide I poured thru as a kid, I thought the ATA manual was a great guide to get started with back in our first season here in ID in 2011 when there wasn't anyone to learn from. Kudos to the AK guys for putting it together and sharing the wisdom. Since then, those of us that have "kinda" figured out what we're doing here in the L48 have been passing along the info at demos 3-4 times per year through our various state trapping organizations. It's pretty much free to attend Slick, but if there's an entrance fee I'll cover it for you if I'm there. Oh, I should warn you though, ID kinda abides by the same code of ethics, so you may not like that.

Let me know where to send the check for that manual, eh?

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Pete in Frbks] #8011431
12/04/23 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete in Frbks
Originally Posted by Alder
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I have the wolf manual but I’ve loaned it out. This is in the back of the ADF&G regulations. I wonder how many people this has helped or hurt over the years?



For the life of me I cannot find what in there might be offensive (at least to an ethical trapper!) Perhaps Slick Pan could enlighten us if he gets a moment?

Pete



HOW DARE THE ATA PUSH THIS ON ME! THIS IS CLEARLY AN AGENDA!

I jokes. But seriously I would like to know what part anyone takes issue with in that, even people who are against trapping I think would find it pretty well written.

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8011442
12/04/23 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Slick Pan
I have corrected the quote. It should read " Wolf populations have NEVER been endangered in or even threatened in Alaska."

I was so upset at the manual that I did not read my post as close as I should have for which I have corrected it.

As far as the Alaska Trappers Assoc. code of ethics, if the Alaska Trappers Assoc. wants to pin it on their foreheads I don't care but the manual is not just being sold to Alaskans. The manual is being sold to anyone who puts up their hard earned money. I don't think it right to collect other peoples money that are not part of the association and use the money to promote their own agenda. That's my take on it and this will be my last post about it.


WOW. I cant imagine have the free time to complain about something like this.


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Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8011622
12/04/23 06:56 PM
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Turning in violators is not always the best policy, IMHO. I think we just had a thread on this.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Dirt] #8011720
12/04/23 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Turning in violators is not always the best policy, IMHO. I think we just had a thread on this.

So #13 on the code of ethics doesn't apply to everyone?

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8011842
12/04/23 09:48 PM
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I agree with Dirt. #13 and #11 would be the only ones I could really see anyone that was ethical having a problem with. I add #11 because I don't think you should help a landowner who is anti trapping until they have a problem. If they are anti trapping or anti hunting, then they should have to live/deal with the problems their stance causes them theirselves.

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8011866
12/04/23 09:58 PM
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I see what bearcat is saying but how many anti land owners will really ever ask someone to take care of problem? In my mind there is also a big difference between a land owner who says please don't go on my land and who is anti trapping/hunting. Then again I've never really trapped by private land so have no experience.

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8011906
12/04/23 10:29 PM
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I thought we are a nation of laws? Trappers are outnumbered by the anti's and the anti organizations have waaaaaaaaay more $$$ than trapping organizations, they also have lobbyists in DC to push their agendas. We cannot afford ANY bad press!! Antis love unethical trappers because they give them ammo and they help turn folks who are on the fence into antis. How we act and present ourselves as trappers will determine if our kids and grandkids will be able to trap in the future.

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: bearcat2] #8012331
12/05/23 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
I agree with Dirt. #13 and #11 would be the only ones I could really see anyone that was ethical having a problem with. I add #11 because I don't think you should help a landowner who is anti trapping until they have a problem. If they are anti trapping or anti hunting, then they should have to live/deal with the problems their stance causes them theirselves.


#12 has some things in it that require me to give away trade secrets, that I'm not necessarily gonna do. For me trapping is a competitive business and business is bad and I don't need to help my competitors to make it worse. I know, this is old school. In particular helping with methods and means, fur handling, and marketing.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8016018
12/09/23 08:36 AM
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Did you think after reading the book you’d be stacking wolves like cordwood? Haha, it’s a tool in the tool box.
The only mentor I’ve had was Heimo, Webb (last summers national convention)and some advice from some guys on here. No book is going to make you a successful wolf trapper….but I did spend a pile of $ on books about research/trapping them.
Aaaand wammo!
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Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8016053
12/09/23 09:22 AM
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For the record, the O.P. started another thread on the main forum complaining about the class he had to take down south to trap wolves.
He was ticked that 3/4 of the class time was wasted on ethics and rules, and the rest of the time was spent on things he already knew.
I expect a new book from his Exellency any time, now!


Just doing what I want now.

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8016344
12/09/23 06:00 PM
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More organizational based propaganda in the latest ATA Alaska Trapper magazine. Barely got the cover open and there it was!

I joke. Being a supporter of the ATA I approve of their message.

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8016847
12/10/23 08:09 AM
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Clever fellow that I am, I notice that Slick Pan has not checked back in after the initial whining!

Pete

Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: Slick Pan] #8017761
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Maybe he is busy skinning wolves.


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Re: Alaska Wolf Trapping Manual [Re: mad_mike] #8017964
12/11/23 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mad_mike
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More organizational based propaganda in the latest ATA Alaska Trapper magazine. Barely got the cover open and there it was!

I joke. Being a supporter of the ATA I approve of their message.


Gonna catch it for this one but would add if you can not bring yourself to convert to Conibear type traps for marten then at least quit posting pics of marten hanging from poles in foot traps. The antis just love those fresh pics of that sort of thing.

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