Well, as a brother of over 40 years I would challenge you to list anything that the organization does that's Bad? On the other hand you can see all the Good that we do from local charitable works all the way up to the Shriners Burn Hospital. No scandals law suits or anything like that, can the Pope say the same of his organization? We are not a religion or all the other nonsense that is always spewed, just because we don't share our rituals and stuff we are presumed to be Bad.....I say Prove it...Just my 2 cents

1st D charge reminder…”neither are you to suffer your zeal for the institution to lead you into argument with those who, through ignorance, may ridicule it.”

Did he just get slapped down? with a 1st D charge - whatever that is

Anything secretive has no point in honoring the one true God - Jesus.

This only matters if you are a Catholic and a Mason. If you are a Catholic, like me, but not a Mason who cares? If you are a Mason but not a Catholic who cares?

If you are Catholic and a Mason, decide which, if any, decorative hat is going to dictate your life.

As far as the Pope goes, I appreciate his suggestions and believe he has good intentions but I decide how I live my life.

Not everything has to be so dramatic.

not leading into an argument, just curious as to what people believe to be their Truths....

No “smack down” as you refer to it, just a reminder of what he was informed many moons ago.

What can be kept secret from God?

The Catholic church has always disallowed catholics being free Masons...nothing new.

Doesn't mean some, or a lot of catholics haven't become Masons, . Agree or not , it is what it is...

The pope does not obey God rules, he listen to man.

Not true. It matters to me to see that groups of secretive guys and religious groups like to dictate rules to people to follow without God guidance. I have met very few Catholics that I believed truly had been born again and were living for Jesus as He called us to live. Lots of Catholics like Biden out there that dont even follow what God says.

That's how it went down. Two votes against then a mandatory business trip and he returned to find another vote taken in his absence. He was the holdout.

Cooncuff, I owe you an apology. Treedablackdog’s reaction excited my curiosity. Upon reflection, my counsel should have been whispered upon the ear and not in an open forum.

Please accept my public apology.

I believe in Jesus Christ as my personal saviour. I believe in a triune God. God the father, God the son, and God the holy spirit. I believe in the virgin birth and miraculous conception. I beleive I was a sinner and needed to be forgiven of my sins and Jesus paid the price for my sins. I confessed my sins and received forgiveness for my sins and the promise of eternal life with Christ. I believe as a forgiven Christian I am to pursue sanctification and allow Christ and the Holy Spirit to lead me daily. I have no need for any secretive group or any appointed man that is held up or deemed Holy. All men sin, including the pope. He is no different than me or you. He is a man that has been appointed by men. I have no need for 3 degrees of anything - no mans plan to lead me to some created spiritual enlightenment. Both groups have had sexual sin problems with many of their leading men with young boys. God gave man a woman because He saw man needed something. Both groups have compromised their beliefs over time due to society and the acceptance of sins today that were frowned upon 50 years ago.
I believe I am no better than anyone, even the most vile sinner, as I myself was a sinner that deserved eternal separation from Christ. But, I received forgiveness for my sins - past, present, and future and I have faith in Jesus Christ that I am redeemed by the blood of the Lamb - the perfect sacrifice which I could not pay. I have freedom knowing I am forgiven and an eternal hope that can not be described to those still in the bondages of sin. I believe you all can receive the same.

Sounds wonky. Did the wife beater repetition after the vote?

Very Well written ^^^ Same here

Can't say on laying on of hands but he never sobered up and would die drunk behind the wheel. I know all the folks involved right down to Dad's step sister, also a drunk, getting knocked up on the couch of that fellow by his oldest son. Dad knew the situation well having grown up directly across the street from it.

Tell us all about the secrets of the freemasons, so we can decide.

Careful now there.

True story, my granny who was actually my great aunt who raised my dad and his brothers after the death of my grandmother was Eastern Star. The year she was installed as Worthy Matron her second husband, she was a remarried widow, packed his stuff and moved out for a week for refusing to divulge. He was in his eighties!

She let him go until he came crawling back when his kids wouldn't take him in, lol.

Read 1 & 2 Kings in the Bible.

You been consulting Baal-Zebub?

There is a lot going on in those 2 books, and that’s what you came away with. lol

You receive what you are worthy of.