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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7997136
11/17/23 09:18 PM
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What scent are you using to keep them there for a shot ?

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: yoteguts] #7997159
11/17/23 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by yoteguts
That makes 150 out the kill window in six seasons.

They keep coming and I’ll keep putting holes in them. Lol


Nice Work Rob.

I wouldn’t be surprised if you had 150 notches cut in the window sill in memory of all the coyotes that dropped by for a snack & sniff.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7997167
11/17/23 09:44 PM
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Lol snack and sniff. Love it!!!
Don usually run just a gland lure. I’ll have a scent post on each side of my shooting lane and usually at least two baits. Idea is keep them there thinking about what to do. Hesitation gets them killed.
I usually start out with just bait and won’t set up scent posts until the resident yotes are dead.
I’m not so sure that scent posts keep me from killing some paranoid pups.




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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7997219
11/17/23 10:23 PM
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I can’t help but think a deep hole full of fish oil or bacon grease or fryer oil or ....... would keep them busy while you was loading the magnum, lol .

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7997235
11/17/23 10:42 PM
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I do that on occasion, especially when I get looky loos. I dig a post holy about 2.5 feet to 3 feet deep. I like to throw a deer liver in it. Have to fill it in before spring though as it will look like a bomb went off by then.
Yotes will dig and dig, but if you get a fox working the hole he will clean you out. I’ve seen them with just their tail sticking up out of the hole.




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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7997475
11/18/23 08:24 AM
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Lol Rob! I had a coyote I caught yesterday trying to hide like that and his whole front end down an old badger hole. Young pup.
Keep the whacking and stacking...any 'cats ever show up?

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7997549
11/18/23 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TEJAS



Good Question B³ !

I think the primary factor just might be the simple fact that they can see much better in brighter conditions.

Something that looks out of place in low light conditions will stick out like a sore thumb when you shed some moonlight on the subject.

I don’t think that favors the trapper that uses a lot of flashy sets. I do think it can help a good flat set man that uses subtle visuals and is good at blending.




I think you are correct that it gives an edge in visual acuity. Which probably gives them an edge in seeing our mistakes.

I’ll add that depending on the things they’ve encountered in past I’m thinking it could make them more cautious also. Id guess that being in the open on full moon is similar to being in a field at high noon. Definately more shy, slow to respond to me here on moon and when they do they use every piece of cover same as in day time

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7997654
11/18/23 12:02 PM
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Yep Mike guys are getting a few on cameras. I’ll wait till all the deer hunters go home then I’ll see if I can catch one.




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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7998160
11/18/23 09:44 PM
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This is a first at the bait station.

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Notice the coyote in the background.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7998312
11/19/23 07:35 AM
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Good Morning Killers of the Coyote!


At first glance what would you say the age and sex of this coyote is?

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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7998315
11/19/23 07:40 AM
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At first glance I would say male, past his prime but not geriatric

But since you asked, yearling female laugh

I have seen deer investigating carcasses before, but not with a coyote in view.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7998325
11/19/23 07:50 AM
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That yote looks old with its long nose and it’s eyes are sunk in. And I would say male as well. But all the same time it’s head is as wide as it’s chest and it’s ears are huge. You officially have me confused. Lol
Almost everytime I refresh my bait with a new deer carcass I get deer visits the first two nights. I’ve even seen little bucks licking the carcasses.

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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: yoteguts] #7998330
11/19/23 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by yoteguts
That yote looks old with its long nose and it’s eyes are sunk in. And I would say male as well.

But all the same time it’s head is as wide as it’s chest and it’s ears are huge. You officially have me confused. Lol


You make some good observations YG.

You've looked at a lot of coyotes to notice traits like that.


This coyote is missing it's left eye. That might have thrown you off a bit.


Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7998360
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I believe the ears look larger due to the atrophy of the under lying muscle mass covering the skull. It looks somewhat emaciated, and it appears to have some signs of healed scars on the snout. It could be a young yote that has had a rough time of it, or an old dog that has not fed well with some ailment or has some problems with its teeth. Several scenarios are possible without seeing the entire animal closely.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7998391
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I'm used to looking at them with a lot more hair on them, so that is confusing. But it looks older and has some scars so I am going to say older, not sure how old, but there is going to be some real noticeable wear on them teeth when you curl the lips back. The missing eye may explain some of why it's head doesn't look quite right to me, I'm going to say male also, it just looks like one, although not as broad and masculine looking as I think it should. Some of that could be the missing eye, or the thinner, shorter hair, or it could be emaciated or muscles atrophied as Bob says.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7998582
11/19/23 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by yoteguts
it’s ears are huge.

Originally Posted by Bob Jameson
I believe the ears look larger due to the atrophy of the under lying muscle mass covering the skull..


Mr. Jameson is right on the money I believe.

The muscle wasting on the skull makes the ears appear oversized in relation to the coyote’s head.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7998905
11/19/23 09:23 PM
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The oversized ear look is something I have noticed in some but not all extremely old females.

The old males always seem to get a big blocky look to their skull as they get on in years.


Here is an old girl from earlier in the thread. She is a prime example of what I'm talking about.

She is also a testament as to just how tough coyotes really are.

Give her a look....

THIS OLD GIRL



Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7998964
11/19/23 11:04 PM
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Impressive old girl there. Here is an old male and a female that gave me fits for a while.
The male was constantly attracted to a charred piece of wood flat set. Caught several other yotes in that location. He would walk right by all other sets to pull my pan cover off of the charred wood set. Finally changing the guiding got him caught.Took 10 days. He had a previous broken leg and very worn teeth. Female was a similar struggle. Finally caught her in a blind set.

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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7999119
11/20/23 07:56 AM
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Good Stuff YG!

Coyotes like those usually force you to think outside of the parameters of your normal routine.

I believe the more canines of that caliber you get to interact with the better trapper you will be in the end.

You can’t develop an "A" game catching second string coyotes.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7999165
11/20/23 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mac
TEJAS
Thanks for sharing.
Looking forward to so trapline pictures.

Mac


Hey Mac!

I hope things are going good up Maine way.

Check in when you get a chance,


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