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Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: dustytinner] #8002420
11/24/23 09:28 AM
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I never received my magazine. And as much as I would like to put the blame on the NTA I also have had a lot of problems with USPS over the last 6 or so years. I only receive about half of the NTA magazines.

How do I go about voting in this situation?

Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: Dana I] #8002766
11/24/23 07:40 PM
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I would recommend calling the NTA office on Monday to let them know you didn’t receive the magazine. Also talk to your Postmaster about not receiving so many. Unfortunately, some of the people that work in the USPS may lose your mail because they don’t agree with trapping!!!

Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: yotetrapper30] #8003028
11/25/23 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Yooper1978
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I don’t know who the director was because I don’t know many of the directors. How would I have any idea if it was their idea? I was only passing along the info I know. I haven’t read into any of it all. Quite honestly, I would hope his motion was discussed with several others before he ultimately decided to make the motion. Could it have came from someone else? Of course. Could be his idea from the start? Of course. Is there really any way to know?
Why am I now being questioned because I was trying to pass along what I witnessed? Interesting


Maybe I misunderstood your original post? It looked to me as if you said:

Originally Posted by Yooper1978

A director had the idea and made the motion. It was discussed for quite some time. Some changes were made to his original motion.


Maybe I somehow misunderstood that and you meant to say that you had no idea if a director had an original idea and made a motion?

It sounded as if you were saying you did know for a fact that it was their idea from the above mentioned post.

Originally Posted by Yooper1978
Yotetrapper How would I have any idea if it was their idea? I would hope his motion was discussed with several others before he ultimately decided to make the motion.


Well, I would hope it would have been too but it's more likely it wasn't.

And that's why I made that post...trying to figure out how you would have any idea if it was their idea.... since you stated matter-of-factly that it WAS their idea.

As to why you're being questioned, it is because your original post made no sense. You said that a director had an idea, made a motion, and it was passed by the board. But then said you didn't know who the director was.

Now you're saying you have no idea if it was their idea and that you hope it was discussed, which is the opposite of what you posted before.

I questioned you for clarification. Which you have now provided. So thanks. That's all.






Doesn't anyone take minutes from the BOD meetings? No record of what the motion was, who made it, who seconded the motion, changes to the original motion and the results of the vote: yahs, nays, abstains, no votes????

But mysteriously, a motion develops to change the bylaws is being brought before the membership?


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Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: dustytinner] #8003090
11/25/23 07:57 AM
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Scott,
Yes, there is a Board meeting summary only at this time. It can be requested from the NTA office. Unfortunately, it’s just a summary only and unfortunately does not include who made the motion. My understanding is the official Minutes won’t be available until a later date, probably at the next national convention meeting.

Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: dustytinner] #8003097
11/25/23 08:10 AM
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Takes a year to put the minutes together? This is becoming more comical everyday.


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Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: Yooper1978] #8003162
11/25/23 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Yooper1978
Scott,
Yes, there is a Board meeting summary only at this time. It can be requested from the NTA office. Unfortunately, it’s just a summary only and unfortunately does not include who made the motion. My understanding is the official Minutes won’t be available until a later date, probably at the next national convention meeting.


Thank you for the reply Yooper1978, but further questions (and I recognize you may not be the person to answer them) ... Who has the responsibility for taking the meeting minutes and who then creates the summary. And why does it take 5 months to put a vote before the general membership on an issue as important as bylaw changes with no prior communication on the issue, not even a mention on the cover of the American Trapper to direct attention to the ballot buried within its bowels.


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Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: dustytinner] #8003340
11/25/23 01:59 PM
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Scott,
You are correct. I don’t have answers to those questions.

Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: dustytinner] #8006459
11/28/23 10:14 PM
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Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: dustytinner] #8006478
11/28/23 10:45 PM
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I'll keep it short. This association digs its own grave in such a degree that it is unfathomable to me. Handful of people fleecing trappers, that don't know any better, to further their own agenda.
I'm not sure if it's more pitiful that they're doing these things, or the fact that they do it to a trapping organization of all places. I couldn't imagine how individuals could stoop much lower.


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Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: dustytinner] #8010350
12/03/23 02:26 PM
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Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: dustytinner] #8010403
12/03/23 04:00 PM
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Voted no, sent last week.


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Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: dustytinner] #8014972
12/08/23 06:41 AM
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Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: dustytinner] #8014975
12/08/23 06:43 AM
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sure, hope everyone does and sends a message.

Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: dustytinner] #8015019
12/08/23 07:49 AM
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Message's won't do any good Roy, past all that now. Since they were able to shut you up during an election, toss members out for exposing their crap and now this, why change the way anything is done? Basically they can do anything. I doubt they have to worry about anyone new breaking their neck to run for President anymore.


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Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: Jtrapper] #8015022
12/08/23 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jtrapper
Message's won't do any good Roy, past all that now. Since they were able to shut you up during an election, toss members out for exposing their crap and now this, why change the way anything is done? Basically they can do anything. I doubt they have to worry about anyone new breaking their neck to run for President anymore.


I think Roy meant, send a message by the way the vote goes. That’s how I took it anyway.

Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: dustytinner] #8015047
12/08/23 08:26 AM
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Could someone explain what is being voted on?



Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: dustytinner] #8015097
12/08/23 09:08 AM
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Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: NE Wildlife] #8015361
12/08/23 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NE Wildlife
Could someone explain what is being voted on?


Sure NE Wildlife, a significant change to the bylaws for the criteria (an add on) for holding the office of president in the NTA was proposed at the Board of Directors meeting in July and is now being presented to the general membership to vote on.

The proposed change adds the requirement that any individual running for president must have held a previous position on the NTA Executive Council. Early estimates are of the estimated 9000 NTA members, less that 15? current (active and inactive) members would be eligible to run for the office (of NTA president) if the resolution were to pass.


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Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: dustytinner] #8027821
12/22/23 08:15 AM
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I wonder how the voting ended up?

Last edited by Yooper1978; 12/22/23 08:16 AM.
Re: Did you vote yet, NTA? [Re: dustytinner] #8027840
12/22/23 08:46 AM
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Probably be reported in the next magazine. Or you could call the office and ask.

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