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Re: $Get rich quick? [Re: BernieB.] #8000072
11/21/23 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
I know a lot of people who are very well off. Meaning they have no worries about money, they can do what they want when they want, and buy what they want when they want. Some of them may only have a couple Million, some may have a LOT more than that. Most of them made their money the hard way, they earned it, and were disciplined about their finances. I also know a couple people who have old money, millions that have been passed down through generations. They are also disciplined with their money. They are also very generous when they see a need and are emotionally invested in an organization that does good and that they trust.

Money gets away really easy and really fast, just ask professional athletes and lottery winners. Discipline lasts a lifetime.

I'll never have the kind of money these people have, I have chosen to accumulate experiences rather than money and things. I doubt if I will regret that, but maybe I will when I am 80 years old. I won't know until I get there.


Why cant you accumulate both? I think that may be the biggest misconception , that if you accumulated wealth you must have 'missed' out on lifes good experiences. I think its entirely possible to have both if you are wise from the beginning.

Re: $Get rich quick? [Re: midlander] #8000074
11/21/23 10:53 AM
11/21/23 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by midlander
Originally Posted by BernieB.
I know a lot of people who are very well off. Meaning they have no worries about money, they can do what they want when they want, and buy what they want when they want. Some of them may only have a couple Million, some may have a LOT more than that. Most of them made their money the hard way, they earned it, and were disciplined about their finances. I also know a couple people who have old money, millions that have been passed down through generations. They are also disciplined with their money. They are also very generous when they see a need and are emotionally invested in an organization that does good and that they trust.

Money gets away really easy and really fast, just ask professional athletes and lottery winners. Discipline lasts a lifetime.

I'll never have the kind of money these people have, I have chosen to accumulate experiences rather than money and things. I doubt if I will regret that, but maybe I will when I am 80 years old. I won't know until I get there.


Why cant you accumulate both? I think that may be the biggest misconception , that if you accumulated wealth you must have 'missed' out on lifes good experiences. I think its entirely possible to have both if you are wise from the beginning.


Well there are a couple qualifiers to that. One is the amount of income and the choices you make between income and experiences. It's not a misconception it's a series of choices with regard to many things including career, etc. The other you mentioned yourself: "Wise from the beginning." I failed that part of the test pretty badly.

Re: $Get rich quick? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8000077
11/21/23 11:01 AM
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No doubt Bernie, wish I had a few decisions to make over again smile

Re: $Get rich quick? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8000082
11/21/23 11:06 AM
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Well I was reading some of this thread to the wife and she said I need to read or see "The Great Gatsby" . She is a the book worm so I just bought the dvd for me.

Thanks to this thread I got something to help break the boredom of on coming winter, lol.

Re: $Get rich quick? [Re: midlander] #8000094
11/21/23 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by midlander
Originally Posted by BernieB.
I know a lot of people who are very well off. Meaning they have no worries about money, they can do what they want when they want, and buy what they want when they want. Some of them may only have a couple Million, some may have a LOT more than that. Most of them made their money the hard way, they earned it, and were disciplined about their finances. I also know a couple people who have old money, millions that have been passed down through generations. They are also disciplined with their money. They are also very generous when they see a need and are emotionally invested in an organization that does good and that they trust.

Money gets away really easy and really fast, just ask professional athletes and lottery winners. Discipline lasts a lifetime.

I'll never have the kind of money these people have, I have chosen to accumulate experiences rather than money and things. I doubt if I will regret that, but maybe I will when I am 80 years old. I won't know until I get there.


Why cant you accumulate both? I think that may be the biggest misconception , that if you accumulated wealth you must have 'missed' out on lifes good experiences. I think its entirely possible to have both if you are wise from the beginning.


That requires balance. You really do have to choose between the two, or create a balance of the two. I chose the experiences over the money. Yes you can have both, but you have to choose the balance, and I have not. I spent my life trapping, hunting and fishing.

Re: $Get rich quick? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8000130
11/21/23 12:07 PM
11/21/23 12:07 PM
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I'm not rich tho I am very comfortable financially. I managed to retire at 50. I owned a small business that I bought and ran for approx 15 years then sold it. I increased the sales thru the years, built a new shop and about tripled the work force from 4 to a dozen.
I worked lots of hours to achieve this, there were times when jobs needed to get done the next day and I stayed till 2am to do the work after all my employees went home. I took less time off than any of my employees. I worked more hrs than any of my employees. Pretty normal was a 70-80 hr work week for me. For the first 10 years or so I paid myself less than most of my employees. While I had some very good and dedicated employees I also had some less than ideal ones and some along the way that I had to get rid of.

In the last couple of years I had the business I had gotten some work from one customer that was very profitable. I got the work because of my personal experience with a specific type of work that I had done before owning the business. It was a unique set of little known skills/knowledge that it gave me that my customer had no idea on how to do and were apprehensive on trying to figure out. This allowed my business to be sold relatively easily as it was very profitable. Was it luck or hard work and experience that allowed me to sell so easily and for a good amount? I can't say. On a side note I offered to sell my business to 2 of the employees but neither wanted to take the risk of borrowing the money. They wanted the potential income/perks it offered but were not willing to change their lifestyle that it would require to be successful or take the risk using their homes as collateral for a loan. No risk no reward.

All this is said to give my perspective on getting rich although I don't consider myself rich. We have no debt and can afford pretty much anything we want within reason. Another side of being rich is not spending foolishly or excessively. My wife and I both drive 18 year old vehicles, I wear my clothes till they are falling apart. we avoid trendy stuff. Neither of uses a cell phone tho my wife does own one but rarely uses it. We both are pretty financially conservative. We don't buy on impulse. We do buy nicer stuff when we do buy tho and tho some may say this is not wise I would say it is as we don't have the need to buy again to replace cheaper poorer quality stuff that doesn't last. We keep our stuff till it dies then we replace it, we don't replace stuff cause there is newer and better stuff available.

there is no way to get rich quick other than inheritance or lottery, one requires a rich relative and the other is almost impossible if you look at the odds.

Re: $Get rich quick? [Re: Blaine County] #8000157
11/21/23 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County


Oh yeah, don't get divorced and stay out of casinos.


Good advice. I'll add , have good health insurance. A significant health event can clean you out of everything you were trying to accomplish.


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Re: $Get rich quick? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8000174
11/21/23 12:59 PM
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Knew several guys that had very successful Deli's around here, had a LOT of money, but the lure of cocaine, and or trading up for a different wife and the accompanying costs of the divorce , they ended up broke and broken.

Decisions have consequences....

Re: $Get rich quick? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8000176
11/21/23 01:03 PM
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I worked hard and so did my wife. We have a Family and Grandkids. We both have Pensions SSI and love our life. We are lucky but Worked hard and respected our Morals and God!!


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: $Get rich quick? [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8000181
11/21/23 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
Originally Posted by Blaine County


Oh yeah, don't get divorced and stay out of casinos.


Good advice. I'll add , have good health insurance. A significant health event can clean you out of everything you were trying to accomplish.


Yep, divorce put me back atleast 10 years financially, best money I ever spent.

Re: $Get rich quick? [Re: Dirty D] #8000190
11/21/23 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty D
I'm not rich tho I am very comfortable financially. I managed to retire at 50. I owned a small business that I bought and ran for approx 15 years then sold it. I increased the sales thru the years, built a new shop and about tripled the work force from 4 to a dozen.
I worked lots of hours to achieve this, there were times when jobs needed to get done the next day and I stayed till 2am to do the work after all my employees went home. I took less time off than any of my employees. I worked more hrs than any of my employees. Pretty normal was a 70-80 hr work week for me. For the first 10 years or so I paid myself less than most of my employees. While I had some very good and dedicated employees I also had some less than ideal ones and some along the way that I had to get rid of.

In the last couple of years I had the business I had gotten some work from one customer that was very profitable. I got the work because of my personal experience with a specific type of work that I had done before owning the business. It was a unique set of little known skills/knowledge that it gave me that my customer had no idea on how to do and were apprehensive on trying to figure out. This allowed my business to be sold relatively easily as it was very profitable. Was it luck or hard work and experience that allowed me to sell so easily and for a good amount? I can't say. On a side note I offered to sell my business to 2 of the employees but neither wanted to take the risk of borrowing the money. They wanted the potential income/perks it offered but were not willing to change their lifestyle that it would require to be successful or take the risk using their homes as collateral for a loan. No risk no reward.

All this is said to give my perspective on getting rich although I don't consider myself rich. We have no debt and can afford pretty much anything we want within reason. Another side of being rich is not spending foolishly or excessively. My wife and I both drive 18 year old vehicles, I wear my clothes till they are falling apart. we avoid trendy stuff. Neither of uses a cell phone tho my wife does own one but rarely uses it. We both are pretty financially conservative. We don't buy on impulse. We do buy nicer stuff when we do buy tho and tho some may say this is not wise I would say it is as we don't have the need to buy again to replace cheaper poorer quality stuff that doesn't last. We keep our stuff till it dies then we replace it, we don't replace stuff cause there is newer and better stuff available.

there is no way to get rich quick other than inheritance or lottery, one requires a rich relative and the other is almost impossible if you look at the odds.


You've obviously made some good decisions and maybe luck played a small role as well, but are you rich? Most millionaires do not think of themselves as rich, but if your net worth is more than one million dollars you are a millionaire. Most people consider millionaires rich. The book "the Millionaire next door" was written about people just like you.

A lot of people want to look rich, they have a huge house, nice cars and all that, along with the payments to go with them. They want to appear rich and think of themselves as rich but their net worth is diddly because the bank actually owns all that fancy stuff. In the book I referred to they surveyed the millionaires and the most common car they owned was a Ford Explorer.

Re: $Get rich quick? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8000212
11/21/23 02:02 PM
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To answer the question of becoming rich quick I can think of some. But I think doing so is usually a factor of gambling type risk behavior or luck along with some timing. I know a couple of guys that made alot on bitcoin. Making big gambles timed pretty early in game. Don’t know any lottery winners. Know a number of people including family that inherited extraordinary amounts.

Most average people I know that are in good financial shape got there with hard work and controlled spending. Often with a dose of good luck and timing and with some smarts and/or specific knowledge.

Compared to when millionaire next door was written the world has changed a lot. Seven figures is not nearly what it was back then and the population of millionaires is way greater. I still like the theme of it though.

Re: $Get rich quick? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8000213
11/21/23 02:07 PM
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I was curious and looked up the book date. Millionaire Next Door was written in 1996. If you stick that in a basic inflation calculator it’s just shy of $2 million in 2023 dollars.

Re: $Get rich quick? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8000300
11/21/23 04:33 PM
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If you are young, you are rich. You have time to let compound interest and capitalism work with what you can earn through life.
If you are old and poor, better hope for a lottery win or rich relative that likes you.
That said: the ones I have known that sit around waiting for their inheritance are the lowest forms of life.


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Re: $Get rich quick? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8000548
11/21/23 09:45 PM
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Unfortunately i was not born into a wealthy family and I'm not very bright, I was just born Good Looking. A curse I'll have to carry to my grave. cry

Re: $Get rich quick? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8000617
11/21/23 11:12 PM
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Here’s a story for y’all.
I knew a guy that started working on oil rigs out of high school. Worked umpteen years to head boss (not sure of the oil field lingo). Told owner he wanted to go in with him one day on ownership. Owner told him when he get ready to retire he’d sell it to him.
Owner came across a deal too good to pass up and sold the company. Distraught worker went to owner and said we shook hands. Owner said we did, I’ll loan you a million to get started by buying your own rig. Ole boy took that million and bought his rig. In a years time, he paid back the loan and bought 2 more rigs.
Today he’s retired. Sold the company yet still draws $2 million a month in royalties. One of the nicest men you meet.

I’ll tell you this, the people who think they’re rich are the buttholes. The truly rich you’d never know were truly rich if you met them. We have a joke down here about Plantation owners. The billionaires don’t have many trees on their plantations, the millionaire Plantation owners do, lol. I’ve had the pleasure of sit down dinners with both with some being outside around the campfire with them doing the cooking. Don’t judge folks with money, just like you don’t judge folks without.

There is NO get rich quick scheme. It takes work and knowing what to do with your money. Yeah they may have stuff that we don’t have, but they’ve worked to acquire it.

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