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Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: ] #8002984
11/24/23 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by J Staton
I think antler restrictions became the death nail of running deer with dogs. Walker dogs would run a deer plumb out of the county. The houndsmen I knew preferred beagles and as a hunter I did too.


Yup, we started with the big hounds and curs. Mostly trash running coonhounds. After hunting deer before lunch and hounds the rest of the day we switched over to beagles and never looked back.
We could have the beagles in the truck and hunt deer slipping back in during the afternoon.


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Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: DelawareRob] #8002986
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Grew up deer hunting with hounds and beagles. I loved hearing the dogs run. I realized as I got older that you spend way more time hunting dogs than deer. Deer in areas that are regularly run with dogs don’t act like deer where they aren’t. Seeing a deer chasing a doe during the rut doesn’t happen. The biggest issue is dogs often stray onto adjacent properties and disturb the hunting there. I wouldn’t have a problem with it if the rights of neighboring landowners could be protected.

Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: DelawareRob] #8002992
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Originally Posted by DelawareRob
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Around here, you mostly ride up and down the roads trying to get in front of GPS collared dogs, and shoot the deer as they cross a road. Not exactly the same as what ya'll are picturing.


That’s how I pictured it! Like a deer drive with humans, but get to listen to dogs working. Sounds like a good time.


Trust me, it's nothing like a deer drive with humans. You are thinking it's more like rabbit hunting. Not even close. Especially with hounds.

Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: danny clifton] #8002999
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The way we done it was anything but riding the roads ahead of the hounds. Matter of fact Dad despised those types.

Our place has good internal roads, the main one a loop road. A truck would head out with the standers dropping them off at prearranged locations with specific instructions to not move from that spot until picked up and no firing up or down the stand line. And to cut off any dog, if possible, crossing the line.

The drivers and dogs would then start into the area at a prearranged time after all standers were in position. The drivers would push through slowly giving a whoop every so often and spaced apart at a distance to form a line but staying in line and within sight of each other. Drivers could shoot forward of the line.

Shotguns ONLY. Buckshot ONLY.

We preferred jump dogs over run to catch dogs. Get them up and moving rather than running them out of the county.


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Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: danny clifton] #8003001
11/25/23 12:02 AM
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BTW, I always preferred to be a driver or positioned as a stander as close to where the dogs were started. I killed more deer slipping out behind the drivers or even crossing into the area just driven than I ever did ahead of the drivers.

Seen plenty sit tight until after the drivers were gone get up and slip out the back door. And the area just pushed was safe for the rest of the day.


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Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: danny clifton] #8003006
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we had 50 tags at deer camp this year , had we filled them all we would have needed a trailer like that


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Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: warrior] #8003048
11/25/23 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by J Staton
I think antler restrictions became the death nail of running deer with dogs. Walker dogs would run a deer plumb out of the county. The houndsmen I knew preferred beagles and as a hunter I did too.


Yup, we started with the big hounds and curs. Mostly trash running coonhounds. After hunting deer before lunch and hounds the rest of the day we switched over to beagles and never looked back.
We could have the beagles in the truck and hunt deer slipping back in during the afternoon.

A better plan


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Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: danny clifton] #8003068
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It wouldn't be so bad it they didn't trespass on your land and run dog during bow season and muzzelloader season. Then they accuse you of causing problems when you kick them off your land. Yep if you like trespassing you'll love running dogs!

Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: danny clifton] #8003078
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Spike369 , I obey game laws. Nobody knows better than me that no matter where you release your dogs they may end up on private property where you have no permission. I have never killed an animal on private property I did not have permission on. IMO if subsidies are paid with tax dollars to that landowner it should be legal but it is not. Like I said, I obey the law. Here in KS you can get a trespassing ticket if your dog tracks an animal onto private property. The landowner is obligated to let you retrieve your dog. The dog owner must make a reasonable attempt to contact the landowner first. I personally have never been ticketed but have listened (for a minute) to someone upset that my dog was on their property. I have always made every attempt to keep my dogs off property where they were not wanted.


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Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: danny clifton] #8003120
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I have hunted with hounds a lot. Owned quite a few. Had to break pups from chasing deer as not legal anyplace I hunted. I sure would like to deer hunt with them at least once.

Arkansas has some non-quota deer dogging on public land. A group from down my way go every year. They just headed out for there yesterday.

That pic of a trailer load of deer is BS.

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Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: BandB] #8003133
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Originally Posted by BandB
Around here, you mostly ride up and down the roads trying to get in front of GPS collared dogs, and shoot the deer as they cross a road. Not exactly the same as what ya'll are picturing.


That's the way it's done these days now that all the dogs have GPS collars and you can see right on a big screen in your truck exactly where your dogs are.

I've never done it myself but I have seen it and been around it. I have no interest in doing it once I saw it.

Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: BernieB.] #8003200
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
Originally Posted by BandB
Around here, you mostly ride up and down the roads trying to get in front of GPS collared dogs, and shoot the deer as they cross a road. Not exactly the same as what ya'll are picturing.


That's the way it's done these days now that all the dogs have GPS collars and you can see right on a big screen in your truck exactly where your dogs are.

I've never done it myself but I have seen it and been around it. I have no interest in doing it once I saw it.

This is the way most hound hunting is done now. Deer, bear, and hog hunting with GPS-collared dogs. It has cheapened the excitement of listening to the race. The old timer houndsmen despise those tracking electronics, but respect the hound control aspect of the collars.


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Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: danny clifton] #8003205
11/25/23 09:52 AM
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I'm with Danny . Hunted lots of game over hounds , but never deer. Love to participate in that before its gone all together.


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Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: danny clifton] #8003213
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Here Land leasing killed deer hunting with dogs. When I grew up every one hunted with dogs. But as soon as hunting leases started it died. People get real mad when your dogs run a deer on their deer lease. They would even shoot you dogs and that cause more problems than you can imagine. Now all of the older hunters have died out it is a thing of the past.

Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: gregh] #8003220
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Originally Posted by gregh
Here Land leasing killed deer hunting with dogs. When I grew up every one hunted with dogs. But as soon as hunting leases started it died. People get real mad when your dogs run a deer on their deer lease. They would even shoot you dogs and that cause more problems than you can imagine. Now all of the older hunters have died out it is a thing of the past.


Yup, used to be you didn't need to own thousands of acres to run dogs. Because all the landowners were related or knew each other well it was a cooperative effort to put deer drives. We pretty much shared things like that back then. Not so now.


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Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: TurkeyWrangler] #8003233
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Originally Posted by TurkeyWrangler
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Still legal in some parts of Arkansas. This pic was from last week and made it's way around fb and got a lot of folks upset. Seems these guys are from out of state (FL) and come up and kill a bunch every year.

Wow! It would be hard to find people to give that many deer away to. Proof that that practice needs some sort of regulation. Looking at some wanton waste there.


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Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: danny clifton] #8003245
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For the life of me I don't understand the greed, jealousy or just pure busybody hate on that photo.

In many parts of the country that's a good start. Nor do we know what that is a photo of. For all we know it's a liquidation of a farm or fenced operation.

Why is it so many of y'all think deer have some sort of special value and belong to you or you have some sort of vested interest in them?

To many of us and a large part of the public they are large rats that taste good.

You had best understand the term "social carrying capacity" as well as you know carrying capacity.


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Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: danny clifton] #8003250
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I remember being in a club years ago, that ran dogs. The best dog in the bunch got to ride in the cab. If the dog wouldn’t hunt, and just trailed behind the horses, it got shot.

Re: deer hunting with hounds [Re: danny clifton] #8003253
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Trapper 7 where do you see any wanton waste at. I do not know who those people in the picture are but I would bet no part of the deer go to waste. Here we have way more deer than there needs to be and deer camps kill deer in numbers like that all the time but they do not go to waste there is always someone that will take the meat. just because your part of the country does not do it like it is done here does not mean something is wrong with the way it is done here.

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Deer are the biggest nuisance animal there is


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