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Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy #8020156
12/13/23 08:49 PM
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Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: waggler] #8020170
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Another man who made his living in D.C.

Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: waggler] #8020173
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Nothing but government approved news for you.

Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: waggler] #8020174
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The 6PM news today went on and on about the move to impeach Sniffy and how they have no proof but I don’t remember them saying anything about the Russia hoax lacking proof or the proof on the laptop being mentioned. Clearly the MSM has an agenda to follow when they comment on conservative issues but are silent when the leftist are under the gun.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: waggler] #8020189
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Go easy there boys, he's liable to shut this whole internet thingy down. He's had a grudge against us peasants since he got "denied" his presidency.

Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: bleeohio] #8020191
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Originally Posted by bleeohio
Go easy there boys, he's liable to shut this whole internet thingy down. He's had a grudge against us peasants since he got "denied" his presidency.


Well yeah didn’t he invent the internet anyways. crazy

Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: waggler] #8020195
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just ONCE, I'd like to hear them say something threatens FREEDOM!

"democracy" is nothing but mob rule; but they sure care about it...

Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: waggler] #8020233
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I agree with him. I dont trust the Al Gore rithms either.



Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: waggler] #8020240
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Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: waggler] #8020390
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The problem is he and those who align with him are not idiots. They are totalitarians.

There is another post on here wanting to shut down the first amendment.

we live in scary times. i am more scared of Americans who want to limit freedom than I am of terrorists.


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Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: Law Dog] #8020402
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
The 6PM news today went on and on about the move to impeach Sniffy and how they have no proof but I don’t remember them saying anything about the Russia hoax lacking proof or the proof on the laptop being mentioned. Clearly the MSM has an agenda to follow when they comment on conservative issues but are silent when the leftist are under the gun.


Here's proof.



Keith

Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: waggler] #8020434
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KeithC they won't look at actual proof, they just try to invent fake proof someone won an election, a ex president is a criminal, Jan 6 participants are terrorist, etc, etc. They live in an alternate reality, why they are so whizzed off and screaming all the time.


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Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: waggler] #8020445
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Do you remember when Joe Biden could talk?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.


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Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: waggler] #8020504
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When you see what they are doing right in front of us, it’s terrifying to think what they are doing behind close doors.

Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: Trap Setter] #8020534
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Originally Posted by Trap Setter
Do you remember when Joe Biden could talk?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

He's got a pulse, to some thats all it takes.

Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: waggler] #8020590
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Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: Bob_Iowa] #8020650
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Originally Posted by Bob_Iowa
Another man who made his living in D.C.



HUH?
Al grew up watching the south end of a north bound horse, plowing up fields to plant tobacco.
A man of the earth, said so himself.


Besides, remember: THERE IS NO CONTROLLING LEGAL AUTHORITY...

Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: Posco] #8020688
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Originally Posted by Posco
Nothing but government approved news for you.

This is obviously the thing we all fear, and rightly so. However, I don't disagree with the notion that internet algorithms are dangerous and for many of the reasons that Mr. Gore stated. They tend to trap people in bins or silos, patterns of thought and behaviour that are often unhealthy or unrealistic, or at the very least, extremely limited. There is little chance that people can escape those patterns or broaden their mental horizons (and therefore increase their ability to act wisely in a complex world), because they only ever interact with content that they like or agree with. Mr. Gore's solution of government control is obviously a solution that a good government official would offer, and it's a bad one for obvious reasons. The underlying assumption (for Mr. Gore and everyone who disagrees with him) is that democracy (in the broad sense -i.e. government "by the people") depends on people being well-informed so that they can make good decisions. We would be quick to point out that an environment where information must be government-approved does not produce well-informed citizens. It produces easily-controlled citizens. However, I think we should also be wary about "non-MSM". (side note: what amount of people have to be getting information from non-mainstream media before non-mainstream media becomes mainstream media?) Just because your content isn't coming from a traditional source doesn't mean that it's unbiased, free, fair, and/or balanced. Internet content is mediated to us by corporations that are profiting from keeping our attention. The more time we spend interacting on any platform or service, the more money they make. They will maintain your attention by producing content that you love (or love to hate), and the algorithms will lead you to consume more, similar content. We may like to think that we're choosing our own digital paths, getting good content that hasn't been spoiled by government or "mainstream" influence. We've thrown off those old foreign, arbitrary powers! But the truth is that we've just traded those arbitrary powers for the arbitrary powers of a digital corporate economy. Just because the government isn't controlling us, doesn't mean we aren't being controlled. Anyone with experience in advertising can tell you exactly how this works. As much as we like to think we're all intelligent and free-willed, the reality is that we're gullible and easily manipulated. I know I just offered you all a heaping spoonful of pessimism, and I wish I could offer a great solution. I can't, but I think step one might be realizing that we are being manipulated and trying to see where and how. Maybe if we can begin to see through all that, we can start to see whatever nuggets of truth might be behind the curtains.

Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: waggler] #8020694
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Libs have had the Medea carrying their water for years and years. The internet threatens that, period.

Re: Al Gore, "non MSM threatens democracy [Re: waggler] #8020739
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I would never support banning anything (speech, religion, guns, drugs, etc.). But, social media, YouTube commenters, gifs and memes have made the average American much less informed. The worst part is that they think they are informed.

The same goes for 24 hour MSM news.

People are being deceived. I see it here every time I check in on Tman.

Knock yourself out believing the crap you want to believe, but it's not news. You are not enlightened because you read a meme or watched a video.

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