Re: Anyone raise bottle calves?
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12/26/23 07:12 PM
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[quote=nate]I sold a jersey cross at the sale barn last July weighed in at 885 he bought $2.30 per lb zero grain. You do the math, chu-ching.[/quote When you do this consistanyly, call me. Cattle always has been a gamble, there the quickest way to make money and the quickest way to loose money, I can truly say I have never lost money on a jersey or a jersey cross, can't win if you don't play
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Re: Anyone raise bottle calves?
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12/26/23 07:50 PM
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I sold a jersey cross at the sale barn last July weighed in at 885 he bought $2.30 per lb zero grain. You do the math, chu-ching. How old was it when you sold?
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Re: Anyone raise bottle calves?
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14-15 months
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Re: Anyone raise bottle calves?
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12/26/23 09:22 PM
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Not knowing what part of the state you're from ( access to quality calves ) . If you can pick away at fly weight beef calves . And if you have an eye for keeping them healthy and getting them going , much better money in buying them in fall / early winter. , growing them out and selling as grassers come spring weighing in mid six's
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Re: Anyone raise bottle calves?
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If you’re looking at selling enough calves for pot loads you need 48000 pounds minimum when they’re fat because that’s contract size we used to ship 50000 to 52000 because the truckers would take that many, Bryce where are they selling the cross fats, a couple of years ago when I looked into it the dairy buyers didn’t want them because of the colored beef in them and colored calf buyers didn’t want them because of the dairy in them. Probably closer to 40 Jersey crosses than 33 to get to 50,000 ish Pounds then. Holsteins usually are shooting for around 34 ish per pot.
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Re: Anyone raise bottle calves?
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Yeah that’d be about right for the straight breed not sure what the crosses would weigh as I’m not sure how much colored genetics would come though.
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Re: Anyone raise bottle calves?
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12/27/23 12:28 PM
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I'm watching this with intrest. I have 96 acres 60 or so in grass cows are in the plan But I need fence and I know nothing about them. When to buy best way to sell. I hope to raise one and butcher it ourselves for the family and hope to sell a few more to cover the cost and maybe make a small profit. If it goes well and the learning curve is not to bad I would like to expand the #s.
I thought direct sells to customers wanting hole, half, or split quarters would be the most profitable. But getting some small ones when the grass is green and selling them.in the fall before I have to feed may have less profit but also less cost. I have no idea its all just theoretical and idea stage at this point. Keep posting I'm trying to some it all in. I think you would probably be more profitable raising youngsters and selling them before winter, especially if you can do bigger groups and attract consistent buyers. With 60 decent acres you could probably raise a whole potload worth without issues. 40 high quality Calves holstein/beef cross = $16,000 Milk replacer= $4,000 Vaccines and starter feed =$4,000 assuming you lose a few, 35 calves at 6 months old, 400 lbs each $2.50 a lb = $35,000 Those are pretty conservative numbers I feel. Hutches can be found for $100 to $150 a piece. Labor is free if you make your kids build fence and feed calves.
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Re: Anyone raise bottle calves?
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12/27/23 01:07 PM
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I'm watching this with intrest. I have 96 acres 60 or so in grass cows are in the plan But I need fence and I know nothing about them. When to buy best way to sell. I hope to raise one and butcher it ourselves for the family and hope to sell a few more to cover the cost and maybe make a small profit. If it goes well and the learning curve is not to bad I would like to expand the #s.
I thought direct sells to customers wanting hole, half, or split quarters would be the most profitable. But getting some small ones when the grass is green and selling them.in the fall before I have to feed may have less profit but also less cost. I have no idea its all just theoretical and idea stage at this point. Keep posting I'm trying to some it all in. I think you would probably be more profitable raising youngsters and selling them before winter, especially if you can do bigger groups and attract consistent buyers. With 60 decent acres you could probably raise a whole potload worth without issues. 40 high quality Calves holstein/beef cross = $16,000 Milk replacer= $4,000 Vaccines and starter feed =$4,000 assuming you lose a few, 35 calves at 6 months old, 400 lbs each $2.50 a lb = $35,000 Those are pretty conservative numbers I feel. Hutches can be found for $100 to $150 a piece. Labor is free if you make your kids build fence and feed calves. I don't know. The wife and boys are mad at me right now. For some reason they think I should make it home for at least a full 24 hrs a week? It's not like I didn't twll them 3 months back I was going to burn the overtime up the first several months of the year. What are they mad for its not like they are working the 6 16 hra shifts rotating days to nights and in early and out late sleeping 4 hrs a day then driving 127 miles home to catch up on farm stuff catch a nap and drive back to work. They don't understand it becuse they are not living it. It's not like it's an enjoyable life for me. But with good luck by June we will hit my goals for the year. But 40 calfs sound like a lot of work and I would need to learn a lot. Probably would need to buy som old milk cows to help out Projected 9 k profit once fence hutches and Waters are in. So profitable within 6 years maybe? (Fence is not cheap) If I could get the family to take it on. Definitely need to look into it and discuss it further with them. . But add that with the garden, bees, classes, meat birds, and maybe just maybe by the time I can walk out the Dore with my pension at work the farm will be making a good profit.
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Re: Anyone raise bottle calves?
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12/27/23 01:59 PM
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Over the last 10 years, I've done it a few times, mostly when we had a nurse cow we didn't want to milk by hand. It worked well when the calves were healthy, beefers purchased cheap. Diary cross calves get dinged hard at the sale barn, at least in the two areas I've been. Several times, the sale price barely covered purchase price, let alone time/labor.
I can't imagine going into it with the plan to buy milk replacer, and at a scale to sell potloads. The risk and return doesn't look good to me. Livestock is always risky, but baby calves are always the highest risk. Usually dairies are glad to get money for the calves, to cut down on their labor and risk. If it was highly profitable, they would keep them all.
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Re: Anyone raise bottle calves?
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12/27/23 03:02 PM
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Still operate a dairy. Bottle feed daily. I transition them to bucket drinking at 7 days for many reasons. Anybody that wants to know anything, pm me, I'll be glad to help anyway I can.
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