Raccoon population decreased??
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01/02/24 10:26 AM
01/02/24 10:26 AM
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Illinois
foxkidd44
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Illinois
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Just throwing this out there for curiosity… have any of you guys noticed any difference in your coon population? In my area of south central Illinois, there has been a significant decrease.. I’m not the only person that has noticed. Earlier this fall I found several young coon that were lying dead and no apparent signs of attack… then yesterday, while setting up some new permissions, I saw 2 dead adults, in the water that were hung up on brush… they were partially decomposed. I’m wondering if this might have had something to do with the mysterious dog disease that has been spreading around? It’s possible that the younger coon I saw probably had parvovirus… but the adults were so decomposed that there was no way to tell.
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/02/24 10:31 AM
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Central, SD
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Distemper most likely had it here before I found dead coons everywhere mostly around dens and water.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/02/24 10:34 AM
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Wisconsin
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It's an annual event in this area.
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/02/24 10:44 AM
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Central, SD
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It seems like diseases in wildlife have increased in the last 20 years with bird flu, distemper/parvo, EHD, chronic waste, brain worm, white nose. I’m sure some of it has been around forever but it seems to of increased lately. You hear about it more now but the wildlife agencies talk less about it. If not for us stumbling upon these issues we would know even less of what’s happening.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/02/24 11:41 AM
01/02/24 11:41 AM
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Beatrice, NE
loosegoose
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Beatrice, NE
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They're down in my regular areas here too. Seen plenty of dead ones curled up by water. One place that I caught 19 coons out of last year, I only caught one this year, and it had a great big festering oozing sore on it's side. I put it out of it's misery and tossed it in the bush.
Last edited by loosegoose; 01/02/24 11:41 AM.
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: Spike369]
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01/02/24 11:41 AM
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The lack of trapping and population control is the cause. Nature takes care of itself when we dont. Bingo. I remember growing up you could usually associate distemper outbreaks to low fur prices.
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/02/24 12:09 PM
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Indiana
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Had the same finding dead coon around the farm in late winter the first probably 2nd year we had it. Looked it up. Figured distemper spreed due to high population. At the same time the boys got on a kick watching u tube trapping shows and I realized I had not taught then to trap as I had not traped in years. So off to nicks feed store and over 6 months and a few k I had a small collection of traps and the boys were learning how to trap.
Last edited by Providence Farm; 01/02/24 03:35 PM.
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/02/24 01:26 PM
01/02/24 01:26 PM
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rogers city mi.
jeff karsten
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True seen dead coon on the hwy this spring/early summer First time in many years this fall nothing We had snow off and on since October no tracks on the creeks and mild weather still dominates No damage in the cornfields either so can't be any porkies Once in awhile i see 3-4 blue jays thats it for birds and squirrels, The people i know that feed birds year around say the same As far as coyotes first i can remember seeing a gutpile last for 2 weeks before disappearing
olden tyred
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/02/24 01:47 PM
01/02/24 01:47 PM
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Peoria County Illinois
Larry Baer
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We had distemper run through central illinois by us this summer. I caught 48 coons less than 50 yards from my house and was catching them right up until the drought ended. Then when the rain started this summer after that drought all the coon were gone. I have seen 1 coon track this trapping season. I saw several dead ones and shot one stumbling around the field in front of my house. Not many trappers or hunters here anymore so the populations get pretty high then crash due to disease. When the numbers are high you get a lot kits too.
Just passin through
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/02/24 01:51 PM
01/02/24 01:51 PM
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illinois
jalstat
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illinois
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Just throwing this out there for curiosity… have any of you guys noticed any difference in your coon population? In my area of south central Illinois, there has been a significant decrease.. I’m not the only person that has noticed. Earlier this fall I found several young coon that were lying dead and no apparent signs of attack… then yesterday, while setting up some new permissions, I saw 2 dead adults, in the water that were hung up on brush… they were partially decomposed. I’m wondering if this might have had something to do with the mysterious dog disease that has been spreading around? It’s possible that the younger coon I saw probably had parvovirus… but the adults were so decomposed that there was no way to tell. Yes sir I’m in very southern Montgomery county and there is a definite decrease in sign for sure
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/02/24 01:52 PM
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sseMinnesota
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sseMinnesota
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We’ve had what I consider an unhealthy coon population for the last few years Always some distemper in the population over the years but our coon numbers are probably the lowest I’ve seen in decades.A lot of the coon here den in the limestone bluffs in steam holes which I think get distemper in them and basically spread to coon over the course of several years and ruin the denning site.
Last edited by blackhammer; 01/02/24 01:59 PM.
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: Spike369]
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01/02/24 01:58 PM
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james bay frontierOnt.
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The lack of trapping and population control is the cause. Nature takes care of itself when we dont. This is correct Natures way of re setting,when trappers arent doing the job.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/02/24 02:03 PM
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Central, SD
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Way less skunks here very few, hawk numbers are way down also past years seeing 2-3 per mile was common heck they might of starved to death.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/02/24 03:24 PM
01/02/24 03:24 PM
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Central, SD
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I still can’t figure how limits are being put on species more and more if hunting/trapping is reduced why draws on species that never needed them before? Is it the influence of the AR people being brought into the Game Depts more?
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/02/24 03:28 PM
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Ohio
newtoga
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Ohio
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My catch is off about 50%. Most of the ones I’m catching are 2x,3x, and 4x. Nice run of coon, just not as many. Probably came accross 20 dead ones so far.
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/02/24 06:35 PM
01/02/24 06:35 PM
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Posco
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Five or six years ago the state was airdropping bait pellets laced with some kind of rabies vaccine in them. Just a few hundred yards from my cabin. We're loaded with coon.
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/02/24 06:46 PM
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New York
nyhuntfish
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Yes in NY. Myself and my friend also have remarked on an apparent coon decline this year.
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/03/24 12:46 AM
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michigan
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Coon numbers are down here also. I found a couple dead ones near a water holes late spring /early summer and shot one in my back yard that was acting funny in the middle of the day. I have only caught 2 this year in areas I would have 10-15 normally.
Coyotes seem to be down also. I normally catch 4-5 on my property and have only caught 1 with a bad case of mange so far.
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: beachcomber13]
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01/03/24 07:09 AM
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Iowa
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Nate, no need to call him out, you can watch him catch them every day. NextGenTrapper on YouTube. The kid is for real, and an impressive young man. He is putting a hurt on the coon population the hard way!
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: trapdog1]
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01/03/24 08:16 AM
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N.Y. Mid Hudson Valley
Tommyran
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Nate, no need to call him out, you can watch him catch them every day. NextGenTrapper on YouTube. The kid is for real, and an impressive young man. He is putting a hurt on the coon population the hard way! He is indeed for real and has seen several dead coon and mentioned he thinks it distemper.
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/03/24 10:36 AM
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Central, SD
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Skunks are down coons are down hawks are down here will it make a difference not much because of the lack of habitat.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
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01/03/24 12:43 PM
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BeLiSlE330
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It seems like diseases in wildlife have increased in the last 20 years with bird flu, distemper/parvo, EHD, chronic waste, brain worm, white nose. I’m sure some of it has been around forever but it seems to of increased lately. You hear about it more now but the wildlife agencies talk less about it. If not for us stumbling upon these issues we would know even less of what’s happening. It sure seems that way I've saw less wildlife than normal the last 5 years.
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Re: Raccoon population decreased??
[Re: foxkidd44]
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01/03/24 03:31 PM
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Oakland, MS
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MChewk No idea if Gary Armstrong is still around but if he is he kept the most detailed trapline records of anyone I ever met. We trapped some adjoining ground and when discussing catch rates we also started to notice finding dead of the year close to water with no apparent injuries. I haven't seen him in years now but I do remember his catch on coon got to the point he bought an Iowa license.
Late 80's early 90's Paul Kelly and I cornered state biologist about rat and coon population losses. Long story short they were nothing of interest being they were not ducks, turkey or deer. He couldn't get away from us fast enough.
My wife did a long line in Iowa one year and I did a ride along as I grew up in the area. I noted the population was way down from what it was when I grew up. When I was in my early 20's there were coon trails beside every telephone poles but no more. I am not buying distemper as there was no puffy noses or matted eyes along with other missing signs.
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