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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8049777
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Absolutely.
Like using castor for beaver.


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8050629
01/15/24 04:32 PM
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I have a wolverine frozen on the board fur in right now. Going to try frost scrape it later this evening. Only used the method with a spoon for mink but if it works well for the wolverine ill do the other 5 the same way. Theyre fat this year. I dont want to deal with liquid fat


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8050753
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The fat skins scrape nice when frozen.
Frost scraped a few fat fall blackbears I kept in the freezer till winter-come out real nice and clean-no grease in the fur to take out later.


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8050864
01/15/24 08:07 PM
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You’re crushing it Boco!
2 of my wolves were tainted. One I put in the bag but the other was terrible when I flipped it fur out. Huge patch pulled out on the side up to the spine. I could've probably saved from the shoulders up to the head though but didn’t. Just kept the paws & tail, I’ll do something with them. Skull I’ll clean up too. Now I know the smell when they’re no good….like bad rot. Poor warm weather and dead in the snare too long I guess.
The one I dropped off at JPs must be OK cuz he just sent me a pic of the damaged nose, ripped from the snare I guess.


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8050893
01/15/24 08:36 PM
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Check your snares every 2 days if the weather is warm shakey.Or close the snares til cold again.
And dont wash them.
Just rub the dry blood with borax after turning.
The main thing about harvesting wolves is to keep the line healthy-too many wolves you wont have a very productive line,and they are hard on the moose.
Good pelts are a bonus.
A lot of wolves can have greenbelly even in winter,and they are perfectly fine when they come back from the tannery-you just gotta process them promptly,either dry them quick or salt dry them.Dont leave the fur wet or leave the hide in a plastic bag.Even shot wolves can get greenbelly in a few hours.
You can put a wolfhide on the board to dry and skin out the paws while it is on the board.
Like other species the more you do the easier it gets.


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Shakeyjake] #8051044
01/15/24 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
You’re crushing it Boco!
2 of my wolves were tainted. One I put in the bag but the other was terrible when I flipped it fur out. Huge patch pulled out on the side up to the spine. I could've probably saved from the shoulders up to the head though but didn’t. Just kept the paws & tail, I’ll do something with them. Skull I’ll clean up too. Now I know the smell when they’re no good….like bad rot. Poor warm weather and dead in the snare too long I guess.
The one I dropped off at JPs must be OK cuz he just sent me a pic of the damaged nose, ripped from the snare I guess.

One reason I don't like snares. Many states (not Idaho) have longer check times on lethal sets than nonlethal (like footholds). In my opinion, if you are going to make variable check laws it should be the opposite, due to spoilage/wastage.

Boco gives good advice, I never wash anything that has any green belly. Wolves have very thick skin and fur, so they take longer to dry than most critters, and that bacteria keeps working until they are dry. Another trick I learned from a taxidermist is to spray any green belly (on the hide side) with Lysol. It will kill the bacteria and give you more grace time to get the pelt dried.

Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8051079
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I snare everything and there is no wastage from snares any more than footholds.
Just dont snare in warm weather or check more often.Same goes for lethal sets of any kind for any species.As far as footholds I wouldnt leave a live animal in a trap under any circumstances more than 24 hours,especially a wolf.They can wreck themselves when held alive too long.
Like I said greenbelly is not a damage.It is not a taint until it turns dark brown or black,Taint is a damage.
I have shot wolves in footholds and by the time I got them home they had greenbelly.
It is rare to get a wolf here by any method at any time of year that wont have some green in the belly.
Snares are far more efficient and cost effective for harvesting wolves than footholds here.
Trapped and put up my first wolf when I was 16.I'm 68 now,lol.

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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8051170
01/16/24 06:51 AM
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I wasn't implying that you got any wastage, you've mentioned quite a few times about checking your traps/snares every two days or closing them during warm spells. There are a lot of guys that specifically use lethal sets in these places that have variable check laws so they can check once a week. Usually on the weekend because they are working all week. I've seen marten, coyote, bobcat and other critters in these guys sets for several days while hunting the area, when the weather is too warm. I know a lot of those animals were a total loss due to spoilage.

Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8051344
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A big reason why I only start Marten trapping in December. Even though our season begins November 1st, it’s still plus temps many days. The Marten will be there in December and in January and in February. Primer too!


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: bearcat2] #8051376
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
I wasn't implying that you got any wastage, you've mentioned quite a few times about checking your traps/snares every two days or closing them during warm spells. There are a lot of guys that specifically use lethal sets in these places that have variable check laws so they can check once a week. Usually on the weekend because they are working all week. I've seen marten, coyote, bobcat and other critters in these guys sets for several days while hunting the area, when the weather is too warm. I know a lot of those animals were a total loss due to spoilage.

Those people should have been charged by the CO.That is illegal here.The law specifically states that although there are no checktimes whatsoever in the patricia portion of Ontario for trappers safety, it is an offense to let or cause any trapped animal to spoil.
When a CO does a trapline audit and finds semi-decomposed fur in a trap charges can be laid and repeat offenders can lose their trapline.

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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8051483
01/16/24 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Most packs are 5 -7.They rarely get bigger than that here.
Some years they get 8-12 not often though.In those years you see large packs all over where you would see normal smaller packs.This is one of those years here.
I have not noticed the actual number of packs go up just the numbers in each pack.
Pack boundaries are pretty well defined when the packs are mature and healthy.You dont have to kill all the wolves in a pack to wipe it out.Once you decimate the pack especially if you get the two Adults along with one or two two year olds or a pup or two that pack is done.If an adult is left it may strike out on its own into poor country where it has less of a chance to cross another pack where it would be killed.Any young wolves left will be killed by an adjacent pack that will move into the weakened packs territory.Packs are always testing each other at the marking spots that are maintained in certain spots.These spots are easy to see in the fall and winter with the large amount of sign left there on a regular basis.It is similar to a beaver territorial castor mound where one colony will cover up the other colonys scent then add their own.Why these mounds get so big.Once you wipe out one colony of beaver the other beaver will know that they can expand their boundary from the lack of activity at the territorial castor mound.Wolves mark their territory in a very similar way-Its how they communicate.As soon as wolves detect a weakness they move in.
Loner wolves are easy to catch in winter if you come across one,as they take big risk to get food,since they are almost always starving and in rough shape.Sometimes an old wolf will be on its own for no reason other than leaving the pack or being displaced.

In the beginning where you say "the 2 adults", are you referring to the breeding pair? I've taken 4 females with the oldest being 2-3 years oldish, but if the breeding pair is still around, I suppose they may change their area. There was 2 sets of tracks that I saw near the bait but they certainly changed their habits.


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8051672
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Yes the breeders.


I missed a wolf today.
He got his foot caught in a small snare set for kynx.It held him for a couple minutes before the snare broke,since he trashed the jackpot,lol.
I had a couple wolfsnares not too far back from that lynx jackpot,but lucky for him he missed those.
He wont be back there anytime soon.


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8063542
01/29/24 01:47 PM
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Hey Boco
Any more wolf action??

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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8063581
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Went to check the jackpot up north yesterday,wolves coming in for the bait on new trails.
Will have to hang some more snares,or move a few.


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8064486
01/30/24 03:20 PM
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Pulled some traps on a spur line close to home today.
Picked up a lynx and a red fox at the snare fence,and a few weasels.
Fox were very scarce here this year,this is the only one I got all season.Although I dont normally set specifically for fox they always get caught at the lynx jackpots.

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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8064692
01/30/24 08:43 PM
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Nice catches. I haven't seen a red fox around here in over a decade. Used to fairly common.


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8064870
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Looks like your having a good run at it this year Boco! Always enjoy your posts and seeing your put ups! Keep at it smile

Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8065150
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Way different conditions this year HFT,not much snow and not too many cold days at all so far.
When I skinned the fox the poor bugger was just skin and bones.Pelt is nice though,


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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8066208
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Picked up another cat today on the camp trail.
Other than a few snares up north for wolves,thats the only small spur I have any sets left on now,I pulled the one short line yesterday and the other one last week
I will leave the one cat jackpot and the 6 marten boxes set on the camp trail for now since I go in and out to the cabin often.

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Re: A few pics from the traplines. [Re: Boco] #8066438
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Good stuff Boco. I enjoy reading your wolf info and seeing those snowy traplines.


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