Re: Firewood
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I've never heard of selling firewood in "bags". How big is a bag?
Try marketing it to condo dwellers in a city. They pay crazy prices for firewood. I know that in Seattle the going rate is around $750 a cord (4x4x8), but in quarter cord quantities.
Try selling on WhatsApp or Craigslist, I also hear the Facebook Market Place is good for those types of sales. I can't remember if mine are .75 cubic feet or 1 cubic feet but I stuff them till I can't put another piece of wood in them. I'm the best deal around at 5$ a bag.
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Re: Firewood
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I don't sell firewood but as far as selling goes, how close are you to campgrounds? Do you know anyone that has a place on the roads close to the campground where the out of towners have to go by? If you do and they'll let you, build a little small lean to/shed and get a couple pallets to set the wood bundles or bags on. Put up a lock box for the customers to drop the money in. Most will not steal from you and in most rural areas/small towns the honor system still works. There are several homes around here that sell firewood that way. Most of the roadside stands dont use bags they get a roll of stretchwrap and wrap the wood that way. See what is cheaper that works for you. Also check with the stores that are in the campgrounds as most have them. They may bundle and sell their own wood or they may not. See what they say, if they don't do it themselves they probably have a supplier.
I live in a campground heaven. Right on the Mississippi river in a tourist area. I think half of Iowa comes here every weekend in the summer. City folk get to be annoying but I guess if I lived in their area of Iowa I'd want to get away too. I've not very close to campgrounds so that's kind of out of the picture. I am near a main highway though that everyone travels to get to them. I was thinking of putting up a roadside stand near it this summer. The bags work better as I can beat them up more compare to saran wrap.
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Re: Firewood
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If you plan on expanding you will need to move up to power equipment so start thinking about a hydraulic splitter ASAP. Once you get way ahead think about expanding then. Just curious what kind of wood your splitting here in SD by hand as a lot of its not easy to split in some places like where I’m at it’s a lot of elm, ash and cottonwood here?
Worked as a Park Ranger in the State Park system here in SD and find people just want to have a fire anytime even if it’s a100 degrees out and in the middle of the day. Why you would have a fire going then was crazy to me. Some places processed their own wood some bought it pre bundled depending on the managers.
Figure out anyplace a camper visits while camping and try to get your wood in those businesses like C stores, gas stations, hardware and grocery stores higher traffic areas.
I think 2 short handle pickaroons would be a back/arm saver in handling volume wood amounts as wood gets slippery in a lot of ways. Check out a place called Baileysonline.com for pickaroon supplies. I'm splitting ash, oak, cottonwood, etc, I have a place where I can cut as much as I want and it's all on the ground already because a tree service drops it there and I know the owner of the land well.
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Re: Firewood
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I’d go bigger pieces less work and preferred by the consumers over kindling sized stuff. I'm selling in bags so I usually split it smaller since that's how I've seen other guys do it. Nothing meant for major heating.
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Re: Firewood
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I’m not sure about where you are at but if you’ve got any local bbq restaurants close you could sell to them year round. No bbq restaurants that I know of
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Re: Firewood
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I’d go bigger pieces less work and preferred by the consumers over kindling sized stuff. I think it depends on the consumer for heating wood split to the largest thing I can move one handed mostly but if your selling bundle wood / handle wood/ bag wood you are selling to the people who have a recreational fire at 90*f while camping in July not cooking over it just a fire to watch. 2x6 & 2x4 size and even some 2x2 size enough pieces to make a little log cabin out of a bundle 8-12 pieces if you split small you can also dry it out faster to sell it sooner All of my wood goes for recreation, most of my stuff is between 2x4 and 2x6 size, I usually put some 2x2 stuff in as a filler since it keeps the bags stacked nicer. All of my wood has been seasoned outside for a year or 2 before I cut it.
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Re: Firewood
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I’m not sure about where you are at but if you’ve got any local bbq restaurants close you could sell to them year round. No bbq restaurants that I know of Too bad.
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Re: Firewood
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you may also check places that rent
back before I bought my splitter I would rent for 40 dollars a day this was a decade ago
we would take turns splitting so that we split 12 hours strait and return it in the morning
a years wood split in a day.
a local saw shop rents for 60 a day so if that would get you well ahead having a pile of rounds ready to split and just go at it split as long as you can on the rental so that our money works for you
then you might even look at buying a used one when you sell that lot of wood.
I much prefer splitting in smaller sessions and not a 12 hour day at once. I am also splitting more wood now also
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Re: Firewood
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Alot of places have an honor system for bundles of wood for 5.00. A cash box and a shelter to keep.the wood dry
Alot a camp sites around to make everyone rich.
Yup ..gas stations ..grocery stores ..your Aunt and Uncles place
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Re: Firewood
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Just read your original post to start this thread. When I was in my 20's we had a pond cleaned out. Not knowing any better I let them spread the mud all around and it killed a bunch of big oak trees. I cut one down and went to work making firewood for myself with a worn out chainsaw, a 8# sledge and wedges and a "monster maul". That got old real quick so I did some pricing of a powered splitter and a new saw, and some calculating of what the break even point on cords of wood sold was. Long story short, bought new saw and splitter and sold enough wood the first 2 years to pay for them both. Still have the splittter and would probably have the saw too except someone stole it. Look into a used splitter at a minimum if you want to sell at multiple places and be able to keep them stocked. Selling by the bundle or stack is the way to get the most. I figured up one time what the difference in selling a cord vs selling by the stack and you get more than 2x the money Also unless you are marketing kindling, split into pieces that you can easily handle with one hand and move on to the next bundle. Don't waste time and energey making splinters Figure out about how much you can produce and how much each location sells. If you can't keep a supply of wood they might have someone else come along and take over your location. Sell the excess by your drive or set up on Saturdays at variuos spots and sell out of the truck Have enough ready to sell to cover 75% of your expected demand for the season before people start thinking about building fires That is my .02, I.m sure there is a lot of good advise in the previous posts as well
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Re: Firewood
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01/12/24 11:09 AM
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I too have a fiskars maul and it works better than my others. I keep it a little sharper than the others. Dead elm is a tough one. I sure slit a lot of it but I use wedges and sometimes have to use a saw while the wedges are holding it apart. Get on FaceBook Market place and advertise wood for sale. Put a sign out front with your number on it. People will be in touch. Keep it up and the splitting gets easier the more you do. If your business gets big you can buy a splitter that splits it and cuts it all automatically. You'll need a skid steer or something similar. I have two smashed disc in my back already and have some issues with my legs. Splitting wood is great exercise for me and I like it. I cannot lift the rounds like I used to so I cut them off the log and split then right there. This also leaves the mess in the woods. Put straight grained wood. Don't mess with elm. It aint worth it. Pick oak, hickory, walnut, cherry, act. If you can split it when it is very cold it splits even better. I burn all mine so I start at the outsides of the round and leave the centers almost square so they just fit into my furnace door. But that's just me.
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Re: Firewood
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For all you gentlemen who split by hand I have a request. Please come to my place and split dead elm. We’ll see how long ya last.! lol. 27 ton splitter only way to go. I have some Sycamore you can work on too! Please?
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Re: Firewood
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Us guys that split by hand avoid that stuff.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Firewood
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Here it’s the Russian olives that grow with a good twist to them even when it splits it has a twist to it. My boiler takes big rounds the stuff I use my splitter on can be up to 4 feet across.
Mauls bounce off and wedges get buried in that big stuff often.
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Re: Firewood
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Here it’s the Russian olives that grow with a good twist to them even when it splits it has a twist to it. My boiler takes big rounds the stuff I use my splitter on can be up to 4 feet across.
Mauls bounce off and wedges get buried in that big stuff often. had 3 foot plus in diameter maples with a significant twist and curl to them I even pulled a few pieces out to cut curly scales for knives I noodle those then the 1/4s are easier to lift if really big still split those before lifting.
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