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Re: Charging Your EV [Re: Trapper7] #8052960
01/17/24 09:10 PM
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as much as it would cause other serious problems; a good, old-fashioned ice storm that knocks out power for a week or so would definitely highlight an EV issue...

Re: Charging Your EV [Re: white marlin] #8052975
01/17/24 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by white marlin
as much as it would cause other serious problems; a good, old-fashioned ice storm that knocks out power for a week or so would definitely highlight an EV issue...

On a bright note, wind and solar is the wave of the future and much more dependable!

On a side note, I had a client who met me at his lake home last winter on a -10 degree day. His Tesla said he could go 180 miles on a charge when he left his heated garage in Minneapolis. He barely made it the 60 miles to his cabin. Then, he realized he left his charging cord in his garage at home. He had to wait for his wife to bring him the charging cord the next day because her Tesla was dead, after driving ten miles to work and having it parked outside all day. He also mentioned, it cost him around $2,500 to have an electrician install the necessary wiring for a fast charging station in his home. Then, he told me a bit about the special tires required and having to be towed to a Tesla dealer due to a flat tire. He didn't seem overly impressed about the $160,000 he had spent on his two "zero-emission" family trucksters. LOL


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Re: Charging Your EV [Re: white marlin] #8053120
01/17/24 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by white marlin
as much as it would cause other serious problems; a good, old-fashioned ice storm that knocks out power for a week or so would definitely highlight an EV issue...



Don’t forget the old folks with no gas stoves during that same time the current idiots will kill a lot of folks with their bright ideas.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Charging Your EV [Re: Trapper7] #8053712
01/18/24 05:41 PM
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Here are some listed disadvantages to an EV:
Limited Battery Range
Battery Life Span Concerns
Charging Infrastructure Worries
Long Charging Times
Low Top Speeds
EVs More Expensive To Buy
Environmental Impact
Battery Degradation And Potential Fires


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Re: Charging Your EV [Re: Trapper7] #8053721
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These people pushing EVs refuse to acknowledge that our power grids cannot support them. It blows my mind. Wind and solar will not be enough and is basically a joke. Coal is the devil and they won't even consider nuclear energy. Just stupid.

Re: Charging Your EV [Re: yukonjeff] #8053727
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Originally Posted by yukonjeff

But Joe TOLD US it was a good idea!! And I think Everyone in a large city should be forced to get rid of their internal combustion engines and drive EV's, just like they shoved wolves down our throats while telling us it would restore the balance of nature. I had to laugh when my idiot neighbor ( he's actually a good guy) bought a cordless electric snowblower, a MaxiON self propelled unit. He has a big, wide driveway maybe 300 ft. and sidewalks around his barn and home. He borrowed my Honda 32" because he ran out of power after 30-40 minutes at zero degrees.

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Re: Charging Your EV [Re: Trapper7] #8053794
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John Kerry said all this anxiety over EV's is misinformation. shocked

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Originally Posted by teepee2
John Kerry said all this anxiety over EV's is misinformation. shocked

Now there is a belevable guy.

Re: Charging Your EV [Re: Trapper7] #8053799
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Charge mine with 87 octane

Re: Charging Your EV [Re: trapdog1] #8054299
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
These people pushing EVs refuse to acknowledge that our power grids cannot support them. It blows my mind. Wind and solar will not be enough and is basically a joke. Coal is the devil and they won't even consider nuclear energy. Just stupid.

Propane fueled vehicles are better for the environment than the environmental damage making these lithium batteries will make. All the city buses in our area advertise that they are all run on propane because of their low pollution output.


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Re: Charging Your EV [Re: Trapper7] #8054307
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Originally Posted by trapdog1
These people pushing EVs refuse to acknowledge that our power grids cannot support them. It blows my mind. Wind and solar will not be enough and is basically a joke. Coal is the devil and they won't even consider nuclear energy. Just stupid.

Propane fueled vehicles are better for the environment than the environmental damage making these lithium batteries will make. All the city buses in our area advertise that they are all run on propane because of their low pollution output.


and they run for a crazy long time not contaminating the oil

apparently LP and CNG has a bad lobby


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Charging Your EV [Re: Trapper7] #8054311
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So, they really aren't looking for a better, more practical solution to fossil fuels is the way I see it.


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Re: Charging Your EV [Re: Trapper7] #8054358
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Re: Charging Your EV [Re: Trapper7] #8054440
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Asheville NC purchased five city electric busses. Today’s newspaper says they are all inoperable due mostly to software problems.

Re: Charging Your EV [Re: Trapper7] #8054504
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
So, they really aren't looking for a better, more practical solution to fossil fuels is the way I see it.

That is correct.

Re: Charging Your EV [Re: Trapper7] #8054505
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Ideological pipe dream of the left meets reality....It's a beautiful thing! wink


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Re: Charging Your EV [Re: Clark] #8054818
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Originally Posted by Clark
I don’t agree with the gov’t mandating certain vehicles. I also don’t agree with the various “facts” that have been made up on this thread.

I have a coworker with an electric vehicle. Guess what, he parks it in his somewhat heated garage. It charges from 0% to 100% for approximately $1.80. Since we are all proponents of the free market, how does this not pencil out? The range in the summer is about 200 miles. I’ll have to ask him about the winter. They generally use it around town and shorter trips. I am curious how this fits into the mantra “EVs are not practical for cold climate areas”?


Price a corolla and tesla of the same year. Them look at mileage. Then use the same mileage for each vehicle and each "fill up".

How long will it take to even out an EV to a gas burner? I have a corolla and it takes about $30-35 to fill up.

average price of 2020 corolla 20k

average price of 2020 tesla 3 36k.

16k difference.

16k/$33= 484 fill ups of gas.

2020 corolla ranges about 440 miles on a full tank. Round that down to 400.

400X484= 193,600 miles to break even with a tesla based on price difference.

But remember, no stopping for half hour to charge. No temperature issues. No $15k battery replacements. Don't forget to "pencil" that one in.

This is why it does not pencil out. Pretty simple math.

On average tesla 3 batteries have to be changed every 8 years. $15k!!!!!

Now add that to 36k and you get............. 51K!!! That is a 31k difference between the corolla and tesla in 8 years. I know I could do a lot more with 31k than waste it on a depreciating asset that can't get me to work when the temps get cold.

EVs are a trick and a scam for suckers. It gives them the ability to virtue signal.

Look at me!!! I am a dumb arse that spends $36k on a vehicle that will need a $15k battery replacement in 8 years just so I can say I am "saving the planet".

Absolutely baffling.

Read my signature.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
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