He sounds like he knows what he’s talking about. Personally I’ve never caught or seen a black yote always just thought they were color variations like turkeys. Very interesting read thanks for sharing this .

That may be true to a point. But in this country around here we have just as many blonde and red as black, so I would think domestic dog has as much to do with it as the red wolf.

Running pens. For years thousands and thousands of coyotes were hauled into the S.E. for running pens. Prior to this very very few if any wild coyotes there. Escapees bred with dogs. Not common but it happens. Those pups come into heat often at the wrong time of year. Breeding with coyotes not common. but it happens. Just more AR poor coyotes nonsense.

No black coyotes in the west. At least very rare. Coyotes are thick. Wolves kill coyotes. I think they cross breed even less than coyotes with dogs.

They sound smarter than me but every coyote has brown red and black in it in some amounts. Some have more of one. Some have less. I've had mostly all brown ones, mostly all red ones, and mostly all black ones. It just happens. Then... those ones stand out and have less of a chance to reproduce to promote those genes. That's what I've always thought. Maybe their point is that all that got started b/c of cross breeding back in the day? Maybe so I guess. But we get those colors around here today without that happening now obviously. Maybe I missed something. I didn't read it real close.

Those running pen coyotes came from WY NE KS OK TX primarily. Where black coyotes are extremely rare.

In the southeast breeding with dogs happens ALOT more than you think. Some of the pups you would claim are just stray dogs not coyotes even though the mom coyote was your typical run of the mill colored coyote.

there would be zero surprise that they are Coywolfs

but if we admit it out loud you run the risk of some judge putting an injunction on year round coyote seasons as someone might shoot a half or 1/4 wolf coyote

because you know it isn't going to go the other way and we pull wolf DNA and find 10% coyote and decalre all wolves now part of the coyote family.

so you just say yup Black coyotes not wolves and go on trapping them

in another decade or 3 it is possible wolf and coyote pets will be indistinguishable going to a buyer is it a XXL coyote or a wolf

I agree 100%. I hate it when people talk about coyote wolf hybrids. That is only going to get coyote hunting/trapping banned. Black coyotes are a color phase, just like black squirrels.

Inbreeding cab produce off color mutations without the influence of outside genes

If you really want to get technical, red wolf is kind of a misnomer as latest genetic testing says they’re a good bit over 50% coyote DNA.

We’ve been able to really map the genome for what, 30-40 years at best?

One could argue perhaps the “red wolf” has ALWAYS been 50+% coyote dna and we’ve only just recently been able to find that out.

Besides that, we’re supposed to believe a species (red wolf) that’s already over half coyote DNA and found in extremely small numbers and localized areas hybridized to the point of getting 10-20% or more (published claimed numbers) of its dna into a flourishing SE coyote population? What’s more, outcrossing back to pure coyotes is far more likely which would than dilute those numbers further as the generations progressed, so to maintain them we have to believe there is some continual and on going crossing with “red wolves”.

I’m calling shenanigans.



Just read the about the authors section at the bottom and you know what they’re angling at!

Caught 67 coyotes a few years ago here in deep South Ga.....8 of em were black.

Have been only trapping about 20 to 40 coyotes annually lately, but still catch 1 or 2 a year.

Both authors of the article list working for the Wolf Conservation Center. I would hold suspect anything they promote, their agenda isn't the same as ours. I've never seen a black coyote here but we sure have some red ones. In a different part of the country I'm sure they would be called "red wolves", to fit their agenda, pure hogwash.

Technically incorrect.

Inbreeding creates nothing. Instead the odds of an otherwise unexpressed recessive trait being expressed occurs since both parents share the same genes.

looks more like it's mixed with Hyena

I have caught many black coyotes in Arkansas and Pa over the years. The first was in Arkansas in the early 90's. The genes are more common now then in years past it seems.

I have shot a few that had a lot of black in them. Just color variations

Many on here have seen all the Black coyotes I have posted in the past. I have worked. Some of the largest tracts of land in Alabama. One year I caught over 30 black phase coyotes. So out of 300 plus a year around 10% black phase coyotes. I post. Pic on here once. In several miles of road. Took out whole family group. 6-7 black phase coyotes. It’s on here some where. My opinion is same as Jtrappers. It’s JUST FULL of dog DNA !!! Red Wolf = Like Boone says. Is ONLY a cross any way of Coyote. So basically IF your great great great grandmother was Indian are you Indian????

I'm with Boone on this one.

I also agree. Just another thing. Liberal will use to stop coyote hunting and trapping !! Will hollow = It’s a Wolf. And let’s not even get started on the Government = Restocking of RED WOLFS !!! Look at the mess they made in The Smokey Mts. Cades Cove