Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle
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10/11/23 11:20 PM
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Goats and sheep are the answer. The problem with goats is that they eat off the smaller plants OK, but they come back the following year. Repeated years of grazing the same buckthorn might kill it
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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle
[Re: AJE]
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11/30/23 12:46 AM
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I'd like to deal w/ buckthorn in the winter but I don't think I trust the effectiveness of my Garlon 4 (cut stump treatment) below 28° Cut it all chest height and in the summer it will be am easy process to remove 6" and treat.
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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle
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01/01/24 12:10 PM
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Interesting. I had never heard of a copter being used. We must get creative though to mitigate invasives.
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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle
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I watched an episode of Ky Afield a couple weeks ago and the KDFWR are using helicopters to spray for bush honeysuckle on wildlife management areas. They are spraying late fall after the trees and other weeds and stuff go dormant but the honeysuckle still has green leaves. They said it is working really well. I believe they said they are even offering services for private land owners Saw it also. Interesting show. Guess the "project" to bring it in to improve habitat backfired. Eastern Ky is facing same thing with (not sure what it actually is ) but people call it Russian thistle. It was supposed to fill in around strip mines.
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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle
[Re: Eagleye]
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01/04/24 11:27 PM
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Hogs. Hogs will eat the area clean. Keep them grazing over the buckthorn infested area.
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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle
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Is anyone battling it this winter? I usually take the winter off. I don't think Garlon 4 works below 28°. I was cutting buckthorn off at ground level and painting it with undiluted Crossroad earlier. But, with the colder temps and all the rain we've had, I don't know how effective it will be. I hate to keep hitting it if it's not going to kill it.
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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle
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01/25/24 09:45 PM
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Is anyone battling it this winter? I usually take the winter off. I don't think Garlon 4 works below 28°. I hate to keep hitting it if it's not going to kill it. I agree with you. I tend to feel that if the 1st treatment doesn't kill it, then the person trying to eradicate it is doing something wrong. I think buckthorn is easier to kill than honeysuckle, but I use Garlon 4 for buckthorn & try to pull the honeysuckle. I'm interested in a fool proof way to kill honeysuckle, but all I've been able find so far is Tordon. I wuit using Tordon b/c it's too potent in my opinion.
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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle
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01/26/24 06:34 AM
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[quote=AJE]Is anyone battling it this winter? I usually take the winter off. I don't think Garlon 4 works below 28°. I hate to keep hitting it if it's not going to kill it. I'd be interested to know the late winter/dormant effectiveness on killing it also. I think the determining factor would be; does honeysuckle have a suckering or non-suckering root system? In the late fall, the herbicide intake is high as the plant is storing root nutrients for the dormant season, I've been successful eradicating it then. If you stump cut it in the winter and spray and/or hack & squirt my concern would be that it comes back with vengeance but I have nothing to base that off of. I bought a new 40 recently and found a mature stand in two locations, I'd love to treat now but I also don't want to create a second effect and have it spread through the root system.
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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle
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When is the best time to cut and spray? Around end of October… invasives tend to be the last and first things to green up- they really stand out.
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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle
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Is anyone battling it this winter? I usually take the winter off. I don't think Garlon 4 works below 28°. Garlon 4, the oil based version, is very effective at low temperatures during the dormant season. I have dug ash stumps that were cut several weeks previously, out of snow banks, sprayed the outer layer with Garlon 4 (a mix of 25% Garlon, 75% bark oil and a splash of dye) and had zero sprouts the following summer. Temperature when I sprayed was probably 10-20 degrees F. I haven’t followed how effective it is on buckthorn but we use it for buckthorn and honeysuckle and haven’t seen resprouts.
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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle
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I'd like to deal w/ buckthorn in the winter but I don't think I trust the effectiveness of my Garlon 4 (cut stump treatment) below 28° I was wondering about cutting the larger plants off in the winter if it's effective to kill the plant if you paint the stump with undiluted herbicide like Crossbow or Crossroads? I'd like to get back in the woods and start killing the larger plants off with this warmer weather. But, will painting the stump be a waste of time and herbicide?
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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle
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01/31/24 01:20 AM
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I'd like to deal w/ buckthorn in the winter but I don't think I trust the effectiveness of my Garlon 4 (cut stump treatment) below 28° I was wondering about cutting the larger plants off in the winter if it's effective to kill the plant if you paint the stump with undiluted herbicide like Crossbow or Crossroads? I'd like to get back in the woods and start killing the larger plants off with this warmer weather. But, will painting the stump be a waste of time and herbicide? They seem to claim you should treat the root collar too, not just paint the surface.
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