Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: Dirt]
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02/16/24 03:43 PM
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I think the rats are 3 years worth? About 1/3 of what I sent up 3 years ago are there.
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: teepee2]
#8079005
02/16/24 05:39 PM
02/16/24 05:39 PM
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Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co.
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I think the rats are 3 years worth? About 1/3 of what I sent up 3 years ago are there. walleyed has around 3 fall and/or spring season's rats still up there. Bug dust !!!  w
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: crosspatch]
#8079014
02/16/24 05:45 PM
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Timmins Ontario
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Not sure of the maths Jim. Around here a $40 hammer marten, after 11% commission and .75 drumming gets u $34.85 not $30. Ontario royalty fee only comes off for Ontario origin fur and, to the best of my knowledge, comes off regardless of where the fur is sold not just FHA. $15 shipping fee, regardless of how much fur u ship, is a deal compared to Post Office or commercial carrier. And no shipping fee deducted on less than $100 worth of fur shipped is good for the little guys/beginners. The magazine, and the $10 charge for it, were dropped a couple of years now.
What have I missed?
Frank where on their site does it say shipping fee is waived for small shipments? I see Labrador is $17 not $15?
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: gibb]
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02/16/24 08:49 PM
02/16/24 08:49 PM
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Not sure of the maths Jim. Around here a $40 hammer marten, after 11% commission and .75 drumming gets u $34.85 not $30. Ontario royalty fee only comes off for Ontario origin fur and, to the best of my knowledge, comes off regardless of where the fur is sold not just FHA. $15 shipping fee, regardless of how much fur u ship, is a deal compared to Post Office or commercial carrier. And no shipping fee deducted on less than $100 worth of fur shipped is good for the little guys/beginners. The magazine, and the $10 charge for it, were dropped a couple of years now.
What have I missed?
Frank where on their site does it say shipping fee is waived for small shipments? I see Labrador is $17 not $15? What Wissmiss said in her post P. 5 1:15 AM this thread. Heard it before too but do not recall where. Does not appear to be on FHA site and again some clarity there would help.
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: Northof50]
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02/16/24 11:00 PM
02/16/24 11:00 PM
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Crosspath every prov has at the bottom a listing of the charges. BUT_BUT if you drop off at a depo there should be no charge
till they mess up your name with someone else and it takes 3 months for the glitch to be settled been my personal experience Well this clears something up. I have never had this shipping charge that people post about on here, because it is really a pick up charge.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: wissmiss]
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02/17/24 08:23 AM
02/17/24 08:23 AM
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Here is a link to the pick up schedule for the State of New York. https://www.furharvesters.com/pickups/edwards.pdfIf you look at the very bottom there is a note about shipping fees. And the fact they are waiver for less than $100.00 of fur. Maybe it is a US thing Nothing on Canada pick up scheds re waiver of shipping fee for less than $100 shipment that I can see. Think it exists though but can not find. No shipping charge Canada for fur dropped/delivered to collection depot. Shipping charge only for fur picked up by shipping agent. Charge $15 or $17 depending on which area/agent. Canada
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: wissmiss]
#8079569
02/17/24 09:00 AM
02/17/24 09:00 AM
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Timmins Ontario
gibb
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The note is different on the Canadian pick up schedules.
I looked through all of the 19 listings for US pickups. Every one is the same $15.00. No fee under $100.00.
Not sure what else to say. I know what I saw. No fee if goods sell for under $100.00. Not sure what else to say. Just another example of a money grab from Canadian (Ontario)shippers, I guess we are both right in this cause a good example of another Fha indiscretion to it's Canadian shippers, one of the biggest complaints I get from trappers is the shipping cost, many have multiple licenses and family members who ship small amounts of fur to keep their points going for the registered trapline system we have here in Ontario. None of the Canadian routes have this caveat.
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: gibb]
#8079617
02/17/24 10:20 AM
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On a positive note I am hearing that the Russian Sable sale is up 20% from December.
Great news for Marten trappers. Maybe not, if they already sold to a furbuyer. There is next year.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: Dirt]
#8079624
02/17/24 10:30 AM
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Timmins Ontario
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On a positive note I am hearing that the Russian Sable sale is up 20% from December.
Great news for Marten trappers. Maybe not, if they already sold to a furbuyer. There is next year. With the lack of international fur sales and the late sale dates for the only one left, the season is over before anybody knows what the market is. I get a real chunkle out of someone bragging they set the market lol. Ya they set the market for next year. Hard for trappers to know where to put the effort into during the trapping season.
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: gibb]
#8079635
02/17/24 10:43 AM
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I get a real chuckle out of someone bragging they set the market. Everybody knows BOCO sets the market in the Province of Ontario !!!  When the Canadian Super Trapper talks........the fur market listens !!! BOCO is the E.F. Hutton of the fur industry world-wide !!!  w
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: mud]
#8079668
02/17/24 11:25 AM
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Looking through the sold catalogs, it appears whatever the first lot in a string is bid to that basically sets the price for the string? A few drops and few increases in later lots.
-------------------------------------------- 3 --------------------------------------------------------------- [ 19.00] |*** S O L D **** 104 - 10260 STR 70 LG SELECT SEMI BRN | | 1 | | STRING CONTINUED NEXT PAGE BEAVER PAGE: 126 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CON'T EASTERN [ 20.00] |*** S O L D **** | | 104 - 10261 ... 70 | | 2 | | [ 28.00] |*** S O L D **** 104 - 10262 ... 70 | | 3 | | [ 28.00] |*** S O L D **** 104 - 10263 ... 70 | | 4 | | [ 28.00] |*** S O L D **** 104 - 10264 ... 70 | | 5 | | [ 28.00] |*** S O L D **** 104 - 10265 END 7 ** 357 ** |
The way I read this. Is the first lot was bid to $19. Somehow the next lot got bid up to $20. Then the third lot got bid up to $28 and the rest of the lots sold for $28
BTW this was an unusual one. Looks like some" ups"?
Last edited by Dirt; 02/17/24 11:37 AM.
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Re: FHA preliminary offering
[Re: Dirt]
#8079700
02/17/24 11:58 AM
02/17/24 11:58 AM
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Timmins Ontario
gibb
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Looking through the sold catalogs, it appears whatever the first lot in a string is bid to that basically sets the price for the string? A few drops and few increases in later lots.
-------------------------------------------- 3 --------------------------------------------------------------- [ 19.00] |*** S O L D **** 104 - 10260 STR 70 LG SELECT SEMI BRN | | 1 | | STRING CONTINUED NEXT PAGE BEAVER PAGE: 126 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CON'T EASTERN [ 20.00] |*** S O L D **** | | 104 - 10261 ... 70 | | 2 | | [ 28.00] |*** S O L D **** 104 - 10262 ... 70 | | 3 | | [ 28.00] |*** S O L D **** 104 - 10263 ... 70 | | 4 | | [ 28.00] |*** S O L D **** 104 - 10264 ... 70 | | 5 | | [ 28.00] |*** S O L D **** 104 - 10265 END 7 ** 357 ** |
The way I read this. Is the first lot was bid to $19. Somehow the next lot got bid up to $20. Then the third lot got bid up to $28 and the rest of the lots sold for $28
BTW this was an unusual one. Looks like some" ups"? Does not normally go this way, indicative of a strong market demand, last year was the perfect storm very little supply and all of a sudden a demand exceeding the supply. When lots get bid up the market is rising a good thing.
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