Re: Original Belisle Traps
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03/30/24 10:42 AM
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No idea about value. I will always use Belisle traps. But I do wish they would use stronger steel. Jaws bend too much for liking. Taking the trap out of action and replacing It while down in swamp isn't feasible. Then back home in the vise. Sarge
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Re: Original Belisle Traps
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03/30/24 11:10 AM
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No idea about value. I will always use Belisle traps. But I do wish they would use stronger steel. Jaws bend too much for liking. Taking the trap out of action and replacing It while down in swamp isn't feasible. Then back home in the vise. Sarge Take a hammer and tap the jaws back straight while laying on a log.
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Re: Original Belisle Traps
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03/30/24 11:13 AM
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Why do you have to do that while laying on a log,cant you do it standing up or kneeling?
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Re: Original Belisle Traps
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03/30/24 11:14 AM
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No idea about value. I will always use Belisle traps. But I do wish they would use stronger steel. Jaws bend too much for liking. Taking the trap out of action and replacing It while down in swamp isn't feasible. Then back home in the vise. Sarge Sauvenjeau are the same way- pretty disappointing after spending so much on them.
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Re: Original Belisle Traps
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03/30/24 11:19 AM
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When NY came out with their crazy regs. on 330 triggers we welded two inserts to shrink the jaw spread making the trap legal without the trigger regs! I've showed the mods to several people without any interest---what they do is turn a 330 into a 280 which to me is a real fur catcher---from mink to otter without the deformed jaws! I've used several different brands over the years and these traps I prefer. Use what you like and believe in! Like
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Re: Original Belisle Traps
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03/30/24 12:00 PM
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Why do you have to do that while laying on a log,cant you do it standing up or kneeling? No...he must lay on a log...lol
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Re: Original Belisle Traps
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03/30/24 02:15 PM
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yea it gets annoying, the jaws bending. Happens regularly.. Yes easy to fix but should not happen regardless... Im gonna try the rudy traps this season coming. Im hearing good things about them
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Re: Original Belisle Traps
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03/30/24 03:04 PM
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^^^^^ They look like standard jaws only. PCS is out of stock
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Re: Original Belisle Traps
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03/30/24 03:12 PM
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No idea about value. I will always use Belisle traps. But I do wish they would use stronger steel. Jaws bend too much for liking. Taking the trap out of action and replacing It while down in swamp isn't feasible. Then back home in the vise. Sarge They have to use a steel they can make 2 major bends back to back without issue. A steel that can do those bends, can not have the strength not to deform when hitting solid objects when the trap is fired.
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Re: Original Belisle Traps
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03/30/24 03:26 PM
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It can but it would add a lot to the cost of the trap because added cost of the steel… I have a 25 ton forging press which is small by industry standards and it will bend cold 5/16” 1045 like it’s a noodle. Those trap frames are only made from 1018’ish (I’m guessing ) which is butter in the steel world. ..then heat treat. Just a ton of adddd expense
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Re: Original Belisle Traps
[Re: Tom Fisher]
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03/30/24 04:34 PM
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When NY came out with their crazy regs. on 330 triggers we welded two inserts to shrink the jaw spread making the trap legal without the trigger regs! I've showed the mods to several people without any interest---what they do is turn a 330 into a 280 which to me is a real fur catcher---from mink to otter without the deformed jaws! I've used several different brands over the years and these traps I prefer. Use what you like and believe in! Can't figure how that would make it legal. You would still have to measure to the outer frames and go by 330 regs Could you show a picture so I can understand, thank you
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Re: Original Belisle Traps
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03/30/24 07:11 PM
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Well yes, laying on a log gives a different perspective of your surroundings. Until you have smiley starring at you. It seems the 330's bend more then the 280's. Which I really like. Like i said. I'm a firm believer in belisle and will stick with them. And also MB750. I use the KISS theory. Sarge
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Re: Original Belisle Traps
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03/31/24 03:07 AM
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Thank you Tom, I agree our regs are terrible in my region. To many hip caught and alive beaver imo
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