Re: Groeny in North Carolina Today youtube LIVE
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04/07/24 09:07 AM
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Southern trappers lost EVERY buyer when the boom went bust in '87. Few states have auction's if you want to travel to one of those, lots of time it's just a fire sale, buying coon hunter's crap, road kills , you name it. Fur industry needs auction's, small time buyers, Groney, etc. They provide a much needed service to the southern trapper, glad they have stuck around for so long when so many have gone belly up.
Not my circus, not my clowns.
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Re: Groeny in North Carolina Today youtube LIVE
[Re: walleyed]
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04/07/24 09:51 AM
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In Western NY we have many options to sell fur. I'm glad too that Groeny isn't the only game in town. A few close auctions, FHA pick up, two local fur buyers I know, an Indian Reservation that has pow wows and are into buying fur(raw and finished),taxidermists, and of course Groeny. And we all know you can't spell Groeny without ny at the end!
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NYSTA, NTA, FTA, life member Erie county trappers assn.,life member Catt.county trappers
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Re: Groeny in North Carolina Today youtube LIVE
[Re: GARY M.]
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04/07/24 10:25 AM
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No shipping cost, No drumming cost, No cities fees, and No commission, GFW is the smart way to sell for us down south. Don't you have to have your cats and otters tagged before you meet up with Groeny?
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: Groeny in North Carolina Today youtube LIVE
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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04/07/24 10:36 AM
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NC, Person Co.
QuietButDeadly
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No shipping cost, No drumming cost, No cities fees, and No commission, GFW is the smart way to sell for us down south. Don't you have to have your cats and otters tagged before you meet up with Groeny? Otter and cats have to have Cites tags wherever you sell them. FHA charges handling fee for Cites tagged items. GFW does not charge a Cites item handling fee.
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Re: Groeny in North Carolina Today youtube LIVE
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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04/07/24 11:14 AM
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State of Georgia mails CITES tags to trappers free of charge. Shipping is on the state. Same in NC. None of that having to get a GW to tag them like lots of states.
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Re: Groeny in North Carolina Today youtube LIVE
[Re: walleyed]
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04/07/24 11:42 AM
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If I am offered a price and I accept it, that is on me and I have no right to complain. If I am not happy with what I am offered, I can say no. My choice.
What is not to like about that system?
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Re: Groeny in North Carolina Today youtube LIVE
[Re: walleyed]
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04/07/24 12:05 PM
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"Are you able to "turn down" a price for your pelts at Fur Harvesters?" My agent (FHA) refused to sell 10 percent of my fur below the minimum price they set. This is solid. It was the minimum ( basis ) I was told before, I shipped. I always thought a fun experiment would to have sellers at a stop to collude to take back at least 10% ( especially the lowball ones ) of the offered pelts at the rat wagon and see how they react. 
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Groeny in North Carolina Today youtube LIVE
[Re: walleyed]
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04/07/24 12:42 PM
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When it gets right down to it, with beaver your options are much more limited to how things used to be. Back in the day shipping charges weren't so terrible that you couldn't ship. Heck, I shipped a lot of beaver bags and knew exactly how much weight to not trip the overweight charges. We used to have four association sales spread out over the season (now just two in March). We had Goldberg (the Groenewold of the west) buying stations about every three weeks at several different locations (usually Holiday Inns) up and down the state. We had two major Canadian auctions (at one point three) vying for our fur. That is why FHA enacted their revenue sharing program to try to compete with Nafa.
Shoot, one time I had a nice winter's catch and haggled with Nafa and FHA for the best deal. I ended up talking FHA into sending me gas money to drive my fur to their agent in the UP Michigan! And they did! Sent me a check for $150 on my word that I would take my fur to Spencer in the UP!!!! (I just wanted an excuse for a nice road trip).
Nowadays you can't ship beaver, and if you live in the south Groeny is your one and only option. If I lived there I'd be selling to Groeny too.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: Groeny in North Carolina Today youtube LIVE
[Re: Dirt]
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04/07/24 01:03 PM
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"Are you able to "turn down" a price for your pelts at Fur Harvesters?" My agent (FHA) refused to sell 10 percent of my fur below the minimum price they set. This is solid. It was the minimum ( basis ) I was told before, I shipped. I always thought a fun experiment would to have sellers at a stop to collude to take back at least 10% ( especially the lowball ones ) of the offered pelts at the rat wagon and see how they react.  How many pelts made up 10% of your offering?
Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything!
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Re: Groeny in North Carolina Today youtube LIVE
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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04/07/24 01:03 PM
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When it gets right down to it, with beaver your options are much more limited to how things used to be. Back in the day shipping charges weren't so terrible that you couldn't ship. Heck, I shipped a lot of beaver bags and knew exactly how much weight to not trip the overweight charges. We used to have four association sales spread out over the season (now just two in March). We had Goldberg (the Groenewold of the west) buying stations about every three weeks at several different locations (usually Holiday Inns) up and down the state. We had two major Canadian auctions (at one point three) vying for our fur. That is why FHA enacted their revenue sharing program to try to compete with Nafa.
Shoot, one time I had a nice winter's catch and haggled with Nafa and FHA for the best deal. I ended up talking FHA into sending me gas money to drive my fur to their agent in the UP Michigan! And they did! Sent me a check for $150 on my word that I would take my fur to Spencer in the UP!!!! (I just wanted an excuse for a nice road trip).
Nowadays you can't ship beaver, and if you live in the south Groeny is your one and only option. If I lived there I'd be selling to Groeny too. You are always shopping for the best $ are you not ? That is the way it should be. Just like you explained it in your above post.
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Re: Groeny in North Carolina Today youtube LIVE
[Re: walleyed]
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04/07/24 01:45 PM
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"Nowadays you can't ship beaver, and if you live in the south Groeny is your one and only option. If I lived there I'd be selling to Groeny too."
Probably why Groeny makes the trip to provide the monopoly service to desperate trappers. He no fool!
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Groeny in North Carolina Today youtube LIVE
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04/07/24 01:56 PM
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Boco
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When it gets right down to it, with beaver your options are much more limited to how things used to be. Back in the day shipping charges weren't so terrible that you couldn't ship. Heck, I shipped a lot of beaver bags and knew exactly how much weight to not trip the overweight charges. We used to have four association sales spread out over the season (now just two in March). We had Goldberg (the Groenewold of the west) buying stations about every three weeks at several different locations (usually Holiday Inns) up and down the state. We had two major Canadian auctions (at one point three) vying for our fur. That is why FHA enacted their revenue sharing program to try to compete with Nafa.
Shoot, one time I had a nice winter's catch and haggled with Nafa and FHA for the best deal. I ended up talking FHA into sending me gas money to drive my fur to their agent in the UP Michigan! And they did! Sent me a check for $150 on my word that I would take my fur to Spencer in the UP!!!! (I just wanted an excuse for a nice road trip).
Nowadays you can't ship beaver, and if you live in the south Groeny is your one and only option. If I lived there I'd be selling to Groeny too. It was the other way around,BP,NAFA copied FHAs RPCs..
Last edited by Boco; 04/07/24 01:57 PM.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Groeny in North Carolina Today youtube LIVE
[Re: walleyed]
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04/07/24 02:26 PM
04/07/24 02:26 PM
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Armpit, ak
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3 Canadian Auctions. Western Canadian Raw fur Auction. Merged with FHA.
Who is John Galt?
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