Re: Permethrin?
[Re: harrison72]
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I use Sawyer's permethrin. I spray it on hunting clothes or outdoor work clothing and let it dry. It's very effective at keeping ticks off me.
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Re: Permethrin?
[Re: Lugnut]
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I use Sawyer's permethrin. I spray it on hunting clothes or outdoor work clothing and let it dry. It's very effective at keeping ticks off me. …. Repels mosquitos too
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Re: Permethrin?
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I’m afraid of it. Highly toxic to small dogs and cats. Causes seizures Maybe but there's a mixing ration on the label for animals. Dogs and poultry is the same ratio which is much lighter than what you use on clothing.
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Re: Permethrin?
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I’m afraid of it. Highly toxic to small dogs and cats. Causes seizures I'm more afraid of all the bad things ticks can do to you. I have been using it for many years without any bad things happening to me. It works better than anything on the market. i mix my own up from what I buy at Rural King. It is much cheaper than the premix in cans.
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Re: Permethrin?
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I’m afraid of it. Highly toxic to small dogs and cats. Causes seizures I'm more afraid of all the bad things ticks can do to you. I have been using it for many years without any bad things happening to me. It works better than anything on the market. i mix my own up from what I buy at Rural King. It is much cheaper than the premix in cans. I’m afraid of it. Highly toxic to small dogs and cats. Causes seizures When I was young I sprayed it on my skin. Sprained my turkey hunting cloths this year and they were still damp when I put them in. Probably not smart but I walked miles and zero ticks . So using it not how it's labeled has not hurt me. Using it as labeled letting it dry you should be extra supper safe and tick free
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Re: Permethrin?
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If it's bad for bees will it contaminate other clothing in the wash. I was not going to wear hunting clothing to work bees but sure don't want my other pants I didn't treet to kill bees when I'm working them and not realize it's because of the wash. I don't spray my clothes so I can't say specifically but my understanding is once dry it's pretty stable. Never noticed an issue using it in the beetard.
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Re: Permethrin?
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yes once dry it is safe
it binds to the fibers
when it is liquid it is a fish killer , but once dried to clothing isn't even if you take a swim
if is a neuro toxin but not one human skin absorbs and in it's dry state not likely absorbed
mix up the label directions for use on a dog or cow , common use of veterinary permethrin
13.3% is 1 ounce per gallon for this use typically
you hang your outside cloths on a fence or line and soak them down with a pump up garden sprayer , you can soak them in a bucket wearing gloves then hang to dry
I don't do under garments
pants , loose fitting long sleeve shirts , hats and spray your boots
you can also use the same spray to spray your dog kennel , around the house , around your shooting bench
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Re: Permethrin?
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Products like Sawyer only contain .5% Permethrin and cost anywhere from .50 to a dollar/ounce. Go online and get a 32 oz bottle of Martin’s Permethrin SFR for about $1.25/ounce. SFR basically means it is 36.8% Permethrin. Where I went to school, the mix of 1 oz of SFR Permethrin to 24 oz water, would yield a content of 1.47% Permethrin( almost 3 times content of Sawyer). At this same ratio, the 32 oz bottle will make 6 gallons of mix. Or, put 6 2/3 oz of Permethrin SFR in a gallon jug, top off with water, and you have a 2% content. I soak my pants in this, and they claim it’s good for a few washes. 3 1/3 oz per gallon of water yields 1% and will take care of a lot of fire ant beds.
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Re: Permethrin?
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Have been using permethrin that you get from feed stores 1 Oz in 5 gals water totally dunk clothes in bucket hang to air dry fold up place in large plastic bag good to go
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Re: Permethrin?
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I remember during the buildup, and desert storm in early 90’s
Permethrin was sold out every where,,couldn’t find any
Apparently there’s a lot of bugs over in the sand and the national guard folks were going store to store buying it all
Could only find OFF
Worst ever Turkey season for tick bites,,,,,,
Huge believer in permethrin for tick protection!!!
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Re: Permethrin?
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Never spray it on your skin. I spray it on my work pants and shoes when I'm in the woods. It works better than Deet, IMO.
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Re: Permethrin?
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Sawyer’s might only be 0.5% Permethrin but is very effective at that percentage. I don’t know why you would want to take a chance with adverse health effects by mixing it stronger, there’s no need.
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Re: Permethrin?
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04/24/24 12:39 PM
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I remember during the buildup, and desert storm in early 90’s
Permethrin was sold out every where,,couldn’t find any
Apparently there’s a lot of bugs over in the sand and the national guard folks were going store to store buying it all
Could only find OFF
Worst ever Turkey season for tick bites,,,,,,
Huge believer in permethrin for tick protection!!! sand flees they were also buying up dog flee collars and using them on their ankles just above their boots most of the flee collars are plastic with permethrin incorporated.
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Re: Permethrin?
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The oils in your skin netrulize Permethrin . Use Deet on skin and Permethrin on clothing.
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Re: Permethrin?
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Permethrin 5% cream has been available for human use for scabies by prescription only for probably over 20 years.
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Re: Permethrin?
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It is supposed to survive intact through several washings so I assume it doesn't wash off or transfer. You can buy it in the clothing & it's good for like 70 washes. Easier/safer than an aerosol spray. I don't know if they make it in pants but I've seen it in shirts.
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Re: Permethrin?
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I use it as a ground drench in the beeyard for small hive beetle. It does double duty for ant control as well.
Apply it at night with a sprinkler can to avoid drift onto the bees or as a pretreatment before moving bees onto a yard. Best results if grass is cut short and raked to get good soil contact.
The labeled product for SHB is guardstar but I use the generic permethrin. Thanks for that tip for use in the bee yard. We're supposed to get a lot of rain thru the weekend, but after it dries out I'm going to try it. I spray my clothes for ticks anyway so I already keep it around. I was going to try diatomaceous earth for around the hives but the permethrin will be a bunch cheaper.
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