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Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: elsmasho82] #8132436
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A person can never have enough!!

Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: elsmasho82] #8132443
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Grab some larger steel for cold weather trapping and hay sets. Try out some 2’s & 3’s.
Then gear up for water trapping. PM me if you need gear I can meet you at the PTA convention.
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Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: elsmasho82] #8132449
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Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: elsmasho82] #8132452
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Originally Posted by elsmasho82
I have half dozen MB 450’s. Now that my shed is complete and my gear is more organized I wonder if I should get any more and prep them for fall. I also have DP’s. I have about six older models that I don’t really wanna use for land because they don’t have the cast jaws.
I really don’t want to buy more than I will actually use but now that I’m getting better at making sets I might want to bounce around more and have them if I need them. I’m not a full time trapper like a lot of you guys but I feel like I should have more than six. Also I’m not sure about the benefit of offset jaws vs closed . I read that they just provide a higher lockup and aren’t necessarily better for the animals comfort.

go to a Rony or convention and it will just happen then you will be able to look them all over and choose what you want to try.
then you will see what you like buy some , try them this season then see what you like and buy more of them for next season.


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Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: elsmasho82] #8132453
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Yes I think you could use more. I like to have more than I set so I have the ability to set more if I decide to.

Also it's fun to try different traps to see and learn what you like and don't like about each. There is always something I want to try. This year it was getting some long springs. Did I need any more coyote traps? No I had 2 doz that didn't even get put out last year but I wanted to try long springs so got some some off the trap shed.

Before that I wanted to try the dogless bridger #2 and mb 550. Tried them both and after a few years decided what I like and don't about each. Like I prefer how the Bridger's bed and the jaws on the 550. Both are very good traps but I lean toward the bridger at this point for how flat they set easy they bed and bigger jaw spread. Also they cost less. But I won't get rid of the 550 I like them to much.






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Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: elsmasho82] #8132474
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Not sure what you mean about not wanting to use some of your traps because they don't have cast jaws. The vast majority of traps used for land sets don't have cast jaws.

But yeah, you're gonna need more than 6 traps.


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Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: backroadsarcher] #8132498
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Maybe you can have a couple more but we wouldn't want you to od. frown

Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: elsmasho82] #8132575
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At least 100 double coils, 140 connibears various sizes , 70 dp’s should be a good start grin

Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: la4wd54] #8132583
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What a silly question, of course you do.

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Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: elsmasho82] #8132601
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i dont keep count of my traps anymore last I checked I had about 16 then I got a few more...

Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: elsmasho82] #8132673
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I’ve only got around 300, need more!!!!


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Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: elsmasho82] #8132675
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My experience was over a lifetime of trapping time has been the more traps you set the more you will catch You might think you only need so many traps at each location But if you get more property to trap you will want more traps to set Another option might be that you set up a property using 3 traps but if the weather outlook is bad you could possibly double up on your sets with the hope that you will catch more in a shorter amount of time before the bad weather arrives In another words having some additional traps gives you more choices as far as how many sets per location you can make And some extra traps allows you to make adjustment to how many sets you can set And I realize you are just getting into learning the many different aspects of trapping But having more traps than you will likely use can pay you back later in life During my younger years of trapping I tried to give my best effort to continue the be a better trapper and at the same time continue to get permission on more properties that would be a good fit in my already regular line Again you would want more traps And I also had the opportunity to buy other trappers complete inventory of gear Some of it was like what I was using some was not at the time of much use to me And at other times Just by buying and holding on to those traps I MADE A NICE PROFIT by paying their asking price when they approached me to buy their gear I told each of Them that I did not have a use for some of what they where selling Anyway I sold new in the box traps for more than twice what I paid for them And Later on the person that was buying them from me was getting a very good deal when he got them from me About 30.00 $ per dozen less than the current asking price and delivered to his door no charge for shipping or tax What I am saying is buy good quality gear take good care of it And when the times require a different way to go about it you can get your monies worth back when you factor in that you used that equipment for many years Buy what you need and add to that number if necessary or just to good a deal toas up Take good care of them and if an offer comes along that is to good to refuses sell them always keep in mind at the end of the day they (our traps) are tools used to do something we like to do .

Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: jalstat] #8132768
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Originally Posted by jalstat
At least 100 double coils, 140 connibears various sizes , 70 dp’s should be a good start grin


You’re gonna get me divorced lol

Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: yotetrapper30] #8132769
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Not sure what you mean about not wanting to use some of your traps because they don't have cast jaws. The vast majority of traps used for land sets don't have cast jaws.

But yeah, you're gonna need more than 6 traps.


From what I had thought, the cast jaws distribute pressure better on the foot? I wasn’t sure if this was true but it made sense

Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: elsmasho82] #8132799
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Originally Posted by elsmasho82
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Not sure what you mean about not wanting to use some of your traps because they don't have cast jaws. The vast majority of traps used for land sets don't have cast jaws.

But yeah, you're gonna need more than 6 traps.


From what I had thought, the cast jaws distribute pressure better on the foot? I wasn’t sure if this was true but it made sense


They are wider but laminated steel does the same thing. As far as food issues from a trap far more problems come from fouled swivels and cold nights regardless of trap jaw thickness or material. That said naturally thicker does spread out the pressure more but other things have larger impact in my opinion.

Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: elsmasho82] #8132891
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The first year I trapped fox, here in Ohio, 1965. I started with 4, Victor #2 coils. I caught 12 red fox the first three days. Then I added two more traps and had one of them stolen the first night set.

So, for the season I caught 181 fox. About 2/3 read and other 1/3 grays. Don't remember the exact count of each.

I believe the fewer traps you have the better trapper you become. You have to learn quick and learn it right.

I was working a full time job at the same time. When water season came in... I got up at 4:00 AM and checked fox traps and checked water traps after work in the evening. That was the most fox I ever caught in one year.

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Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: elsmasho82] #8132969
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Guess everyone could send her 1 or 2, traps and not cause her a DIVORCE 😆 lol

Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: Trappin Arkansas] #8132978
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Originally Posted by Trappin Arkansas
Guess everyone could send her 1 or 2, traps and not cause her a DIVORCE 😆 lol



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Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: Providence Farm] #8132998
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by elsmasho82

From what I had thought, the cast jaws distribute pressure better on the foot? I wasn’t sure if this was true but it made sense


They are wider but laminated steel does the same thing. As far as food issues from a trap far more problems come from fouled swivels and cold nights regardless of trap jaw thickness or material. That said naturally thicker does spread out the pressure more but other things have larger impact in my opinion.



Yep what he said. The only thing, imo, that cast jaws do is give you a wider jaw face, and as mentioned, laminations do the same. But I wouldn't hesitate to use unlaminated traps either. I also agree with extra swivels being the key to good feet. Try one or two of your non-cast jaws and I bet you won't see any different in foot condition. Since you work in a vet's office maybe you could even make it an experiment and autopsy the feet from animals caught in both type jaws (with the same amount of swivels and level of entanglement) to assess whether there's any difference in foot damage.

Hint: You might be surprised by the results.


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Re: Should I buy more traps? [Re: elsmasho82] #8133025
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