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The Laws of Man? #8136517
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If you willfully and knowingly violate the laws of man (specifically game and fish law) are you committing a sin in the eyes of God?

I've read a few related verses in Romans and have my interpretation.

Your opinions?


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Re: The Laws of Man? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8136521
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“Render unto Caesar……”


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I have wondered this in the past. Mostly when the world was going to end in a Y2K panic.

If I kill a deer out of season because my family is hungry, I am guilty of breaking mans law even if no one ever knows what I've done. My theory, I have sinned against God's law and He saw me.


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In my opinion if the law is evil. Then natural law is the higher power.
Fortunately the highest power is God, and in our country it is the constitution, under God
We have plenty of laws that are unconstitutional and against the natural laws we Have from our Creator.
If the law is good, if it's constitutional. And especially if it does not break God's law.
Then we should comply.
Example. If it were illegal to kill something for substance in the case of survival. I world harvest an animal to service. There are plenty of gray aria laws that are not just .
Example in Wyoming you can't use game animal parts for bait. The reasoning is because during the fur boom of the 70-80s there were alot of peaple killing antelope and deer for baiting coyotes.
This was an illegal act. So the honest guy suffers and can't use game animal remains or use a raid killed deer for bait. Were is the justice. And this sort of throws the want and waste law out the window when it comes to efficiency and wise use.

Re: The Laws of Man? [Re: Old pup] #8136529
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Originally Posted by Old pup
I have wondered this in the past. Mostly when the world was going to end in a Y2K panic.

If I kill a deer out of season because my family is hungry, I am guilty of breaking mans law even if no one ever knows what I've done. My theory, I have sinned against God's law and He saw me.


The only sin I could see here is your lack of faith that God would provide for you.

Me speeding down the highway because my heart says screw the government is much different than speeding because I want to save someone from bleeding out. Even man knows the difference in that situation, surely God does too.


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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
If you willfully and knowingly violate the laws of man (specifically game and fish law) are you committing a sin in the eyes of God?

I've read a few related verses in Romans and have my interpretation.

Your opinions?



Unjust/ immoral / unethical laws?
No.

I put ethics above laws, and God above gov

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Define "unjust law".

Who makes that decision?


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Not a wildlife law, but if the speed limit is 55mph and you intentionally drive 60...what about that?


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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Define "unjust law".

Who makes that decision?

If man was just we would not need man's law. Or God's law. If there was no sin there would be no need for laws.
Man transgresses. Therefore we have laws. but man's law is not always just.
If it were then we would be God, then we would not need law.

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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Define "unjust law".

Who makes that decision?

If man was just we would not need man's law. Or God's law. If there was no sin there would be no need for laws.
Man transgresses. Therefore we have laws. but man's law is not always just.
If it were then we would be God, then we would not need law.



I agree with this ^^^^

But, does man determine what's a just law for him and his fellow man to follow?


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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
“Render unto Caesar……”

Who made the creature.
God or Caesar? cool

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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Not a wildlife law, but if the speed limit is 55mph and you intentionally drive 60...what about that?


I think God is more concerned with the character of your heart and your relationship with Him than he is with the speed at which you drive


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I agree Swamp we do the best we can.

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Plato took his most original idea to be that law should combine persuasion with compulsion. In order to persuade citizens to follow the legal code, every law has a prelude that offers reasons why it is in one's interest to obey.

The Rule of Law has its origins in ancient Greece and, more specifically, in the philosophy of Aristotle. In his work titled Politics, Aristotle raised the question of whether it is better to be ruled by the best leader or the best laws.

Just food for thought. But remember this was a time when God was silent.

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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
“Render unto Caesar……”

So...... what exactly belongs to Caeser?

Re: The Laws of Man? [Re: Giant Sage] #8136551
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
“Render unto Caesar……”

Who made the creature.
God or Caesar? cool


Without “Caesar” will the prophecy be fulfilled? Would we be making our way to a cashless society on our own following God’s law?


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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Define "unjust law".

Who makes that decision?



Me.
For me.
And me alone.

They say no man is an island.
But I am.

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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by Old pup
I have wondered this in the past. Mostly when the world was going to end in a Y2K panic.

If I kill a deer out of season because my family is hungry, I am guilty of breaking mans law even if no one ever knows what I've done. My theory, I have sinned against God's law and He saw me.


The only sin I could see here is your lack of faith that God would provide for you.

Me speeding down the highway because my heart says screw the government is much different than speeding because I want to save someone from bleeding out. Even man knows the difference in that situation, surely God does too.

Amen


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Good point hobby

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Regarding game laws my opinion is if you are cheating then you are stealing, at least opportunity, from everyone else.


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