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Is this discrimination? #8149634
06/04/24 12:31 PM
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In today's world.
My wife works as a night nurse. 12 hr shifts. She gets off at 5:30 a.m. and sleeps in the daytime. The village blows the air raid siren at 12 noon and again at 1:00 which wakes her even with white noise and ear plugs
I've asked the village board to stop but they just laugh. Could this be discrimination? Maybe they should blow the siren at midnight and 1:00 a.m. so night shift knows its lunch time.
If village won't listen, what's the next step?


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Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149672
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Slap the wife,,,or move....?


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Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149681
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How are they discriminating against your wife?

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Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149686
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I think they do that in Kansas too. I asked and was told it was for the farmers. Let’em know when it’s lunch time and when it’s over.
I don’t think it’s discrimination unless they decided to start doing it once your wife got on night shift. I’d imagine it’s been a thing since the beginning of the “village”. She’ll eventually sleep through it.

Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149694
06/04/24 01:48 PM
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Not without intent it is not.

Now if they purposely do so knowing of her and/or "class" specifics beforehand and targeted towards her "class" it would be discriminatory harassment.

However, this sounds more like a prior established practice without regard to anyone in particular.

Now you might have a case for nuisance. Nuisance being defined as an action that reduces or denies one's enjoyment of an expected right or privilege. In this case the peaceful enjoyment of her home and property.

An attorney would know the particulars in your state and just how to address it. But the hurdle you most likely will face is immunity. A neighbor can be sued for loud noises, governments tend to have immunity for governmental functions.


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Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149698
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In today's victim culture you could probably get it passed off as discrimination. I mean there's people think they are cats and we are to go along with it

Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149703
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I would guess that the blowing of the siren is mandated by government higher up than the village. They blow the sirens her at noon on Wednesdays.


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Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149722
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I thought it was to signal Happy Hour,,,,,.. frown


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Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149729
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Was blowing the whistle something they did when she took the job?

No, it is not discrimination, just unfortunate circumstance. However, it might be reasonable to question whether blowing the whistle still has a valid purpose. Perhaps do some research on when the practice was started, if an ordinance was passed requiring it, and if so, what the basis was. Also look to see if there is a noise ordinance that whistle blowing may violate and provide a basis for challenge if there is no longer a valid purpose for blowing the whistle.

Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149731
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It was started as an air raid siren during the cold war.


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Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149737
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You might have a better argument that it devalues your property. Someone might want to buy your house but once they hear the siren they decline the purchase.

That has been litigated with nuisance barking etc.


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Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: white17] #8149741
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Originally Posted by white17
You might have a better argument that it devalues your property. Someone might want to buy your house but once they hear the siren they decline the purchase.

That has been litigated with nuisance barking etc.


That is probably the best argument. Towns get all weird when tax values go down.


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Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149747
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
It was started as an air raid siren during the cold war.

I wonder if it is one of those old Chrysler ones. Built with a 331 firedome hemi V-8. Supposedly loudest siren ever made. Reputedly 138db @ 100ft. Can be heard for 25 miles.

Only in America do we put a hemi on a siren.......lol


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Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149781
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Nope...this is a lektrik motor driven mounted on a windmill tower.


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Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149788
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They used to blow the whistle in a little town where my aunt lived and I would stay there once in a while. It wasn't the whistle so much but every dog in town would howl for 15 minutes afterward just at one another.

Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149795
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I know in one town that I live close too they don't blow the fire siren after a certain time in the evening so it doesn't wake/bother people.iam not sure if it still goes off at noon or not.

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Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149797
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night shift always gets pooped on , it is a day walkers world.

run by people who work 8-5 or there about

but night shift workers are not a protected class

and they are not one race , color , creed , sex .................................................................................................all the other stuff the put in a non discrimination statement

not sure if you say they use it as a noon and 1mp whistle every day , or if they run regular tests at noon and 1

tests fall under the for the public preparedness safety

using it as a lunch start stop is probably just tradition in your town

where I grew up noon for lunch and 9pm for curfew for kids it was just a short siren for those







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Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Gary Benson] #8149806
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Can't do anything without offending someone

Re: Is this discrimination? [Re: Yes sir] #8149807
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Can't do anything without offending someone

It doesn't affect you so everything's hunkydory


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