We do the best we can as parents....when they leave the house ...no guarantees.

Evil is all around us...

I bet Bruce Jenners parents were proud of their son too....

But they still love him

I disagree, this is generally not true. People make their own choices. I have seen many families where some of them are good people and productive members of society and others are lowlifes or drug addicts. I have also seen people who had horrible childhoods with alcoholism, sexual abuse and physical abuse grow up to be amazing people and great parents.

Do what you can as a parent, communication and involvement are important. But once that child becomes an adult, you just never know.

Both my wife and I came from abusive, alcoholic homes. We were determined our kids would never witness what we did. We were married for ten years before our first daughter came along. That wasn't by design, that's just the way it went.

I was a nervous wreck around my kids for the most part, I didn't want my warts blemishing their lives. It was purely seat-of-the-pants parenting. I treated them with respect, patience and showered them with love. No yelling, no demeaning. I occasionally used the rod, but sparingly. It was rarely needed.

I took advantage of those early childless years by watching friends who I respected raise their kids. I tried to model their examples. I think it worked. My kids are adults and in their thirties now. They're leading productive lives raising children of their own.

I’m a failure as a father.
My son loves to trap coyotes.
He learned nothing in his childhood apparently.

A parents job is to give the kids the tools to make good choices while they are in their formative years,so they can carry that forward.
This is done by example in the household by being a loving family,and not by preaching what you do not practice.
You have to show your kids you trust them to make good choices along the way.
But ultimately as adults they choose their path in life.

Both nature and nurture generally run true. Nature is your genetic identity. Nurture is your, learning upbringing and environment. This is why good families generally continue to produce good people and crap families generally continue to produce crap people.

The best thing you can do in life is to help other people reach their full positive potential.

Keith

I wonder what " Black sheep of the family" means?

Have known a few preachers daughters would scare Satan.

Who is typing on Boco's computer?????

Merle Haggard and Johnny Paycheck come to mind.

..... leaves only me to blame, cause Momma tried.
I turned out to be, the only %#@@ my Momma ever raised.

They both had decent folks .... cordin to the songs

Yep, generally they go into the stereotype along with hair dresser's and red heads. Wild and crazy and in my experience it's an accurate stereotype.

As parents, we do the best we can; otherwise we'd do better.

I can’t see how my mom would find fault with me. I’m hard working, a devoted wife, I have a decent personality and I don’t get into any trouble.
But she can’t deal with the fact that I don’t practice religion exactly how she does. She constantly compares me to others in the congregation and she feels something is lacking.
I know it’s a little off topic but bottom line is I’m a bit different than her (well a LOT different; she wanted a girly ballerina) and because of that she feels like she failed

She should be having bad dreams, not you, lol !

Young lady don't put that on you.

Back on topic kinda I have six daughters and what I tell about a young man is respect. Not faked but real. Toward my daughter and my wife. I have a reputation so that goes without. Respect.

Some of us came from such dysfunction and abuse that we had to live through the reputations that our elders had made and they did not stick around to see if we were able to or not. Walking into the wind and up hill in life is not the bad or negative thing many make it out to be. Knowing what evil is and not what is just talked about makes one not only in many ways better equipped but also more accepting of others as we don't know the dungens they may have lived in either.

Bryce

Meh.., most people turn out to be [ in the long run】 like the people they hang with.
A parent can instill the best they can until bout age 16ish and hope for the best after that.
I admire young people that grew up poor but are respectful then ones that have been coddled and grew up entitled.

My parents were not mentally, monetarily nor emotionally equipped to have any children, yet the had five.
This clearly had a negative impact on me growing up, but once I became aware of how terrible they were as parents, I made it my mission to overcome and succeed on my own. I have had a jobs ever since I was 13 years old and I put myself through college. I got married and I now have two wonderful grown sons who love their father as much as I love them.
How could this even happen, I once wondered. It is because they unwittingly taught me how not to live and raise children. I don't know that I would have succeeded to the level that I have if I hadn't' lived through that horrible childhood.

Don't confuse your mom's hang up and failures as faults and failure of yours or reflection of yourself. All you stated are personal failure's of hers and have nothing.to do with you.