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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: bluegrassman] #8174069
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Originally Posted by bluegrassman
Rob Schmidt on newsmax just said the police knew the shooter was on the roof 30 minutes before the shooting happened.

They also let the shooter shoot first before the snipers shot back killing him.

Also while the shooter was on the roof the police was training inside the building at the same time.

Let all that sink in if you can.



What was the hold up ? , they usually shoot first ask questions later.....I thought


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174070
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Regarding all of the conspiracy nonsense:

Why in the heck would the participants in this conspiracy pick that kid? That was a chip shot for an actually trained shooter. Why wouldn't they pick someone who can shoot and make it?

Why in the heck would they arm him with an AR? A bolt gun with a fast projectile could have zipped through his vest--assuming he was wearing one. One shot. No head shot needed.

I can hit that range all day long repeatedly--but not on a hot roof, with distractions, with impending law enforcement about to descend on me, at a human (and a famous political figure),and with presumably the equivalent of some Palmetto State POS rifle.

It looks like LE dropped the ball on security. Some things in life are still simple.

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: jbyrd63] #8174072
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
1 second is the time it take you to snap your fingers. I ain't buying he shot 5 or 6 times before I could snap my fingers twice....

Aerial view of the weapon.....body is blurred out.

https://youtu.be/JT8Rf46cIfI?si=_7vpBAOt3d3YnfkG


your not 20 . your arthur itis probly slowing you down lol lol

Probably. My arthritis is pretty bad.

But I just watched and listened to video on the news again, as DT grabbed his ear. First three shots fired in about 2.5 to 3 seconds then pause.


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: Blaine County] #8174073
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Regarding all of the conspiracy nonsense:

Why in the heck would the participants in this conspiracy pick that kid? That was a chip shot for an actually trained shooter. Why wouldn't they pick someone who can shoot and make it?

Why in the heck would they arm him with an AR? A bolt gun with a fast projectile could have zipped through his vest--assuming he was wearing one. One shot. No head shot needed.

I can hit that range all day long repeatedly--but not on a hot roof, with distractions, with impending law enforcement about to descend on me, at a human (and a famous political figure),and with presumably the equivalent of some Palmetto State POS rifle.

It looks like LE dropped the ball on security. Some things in life are still simple.

You guys are thinking about targets on ranges that don't move. Trump turning his head as the trigger broke turned a good shot into a bad shot.....

Another argument is there is a difference between planning it and knowing it going to happen and standing down for the sake of argument

Last edited by Yes sir; 07/15/24 07:09 PM.
Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8174076
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And who is savvel?


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174078
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Shooter's rifle doesn't appear to be a bump stock...and appears to have an Aimpoint, Vortex, Truglo, or Eotech-type dot sight on it. Very little magnification there....but at 130+/- yds...didn’t need much. It's hard to tell, but there may be a magnifier on it.


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: AntiGov] #8174080
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Originally Posted by bluegrassman
Rob Schmidt on newsmax just said the police knew the shooter was on the roof 30 minutes before the shooting happened.

They also let the shooter shoot first before the snipers shot back killing him.

Also while the shooter was on the roof the police was training inside the building at the same time.

Let all that sink in if you can.



What was the hold up ? , they usually shoot first ask questions later.....I thought


Probably waiting till they killed trump then take out the shooter. Luckily he missed the first shot. Unfortunately a man still died needlessly.


Anyone that owns a gun and votes democrat deserves to have there gun taken, cause they truly are too stupid to own a gun.
Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174081
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I can't believe y'all are arguing about how many shots can be fired in how many minutes and completely ignoring the breaking news that law enforcement KNEW THERE WAS A GUY ON THE ROOF WITH A GUN for 30 MINUTES before Trump was shot.


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: Yes sir] #8174082
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Regarding all of the conspiracy nonsense:

Why in the heck would the participants in this conspiracy pick that kid? That was a chip shot for an actually trained shooter. Why wouldn't they pick someone who can shoot and make it?

Why in the heck would they arm him with an AR? A bolt gun with a fast projectile could have zipped through his vest--assuming he was wearing one. One shot. No head shot needed.

I can hit that range all day long repeatedly--but not on a hot roof, with distractions, with impending law enforcement about to descend on me, at a human (and a famous political figure),and with presumably the equivalent of some Palmetto State POS rifle.

It looks like LE dropped the ball on security. Some things in life are still simple.

You guys are thinking about targets on ranges that don't move. Trump turning his head as the trigger broke turned a good shot into a bad shot.....

Another argument is there is a difference between planning it and knowing it going to happen and standing down for the sake of argument


You are focused on one aspect. Read the rest of what I wrote. If this really was a conspiracy to kill Trump (versus one deranged young man), it was destined to fail for many reasons.

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: yotetrapper30] #8174083
07/15/24 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I can't believe y'all are arguing about how many shots can be fired in how many minutes and completely ignoring the breaking news that law enforcement KNEW THERE WAS A GUY ON THE ROOF WITH A GUN for 30 MINUTES before Trump was shot.

That's what I'm saying! That death and those injuries could have been EASILY prevented.


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: yotetrapper30] #8174092
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I can't believe y'all are arguing about how many shots can be fired in how many minutes and completely ignoring the breaking news that law enforcement KNEW THERE WAS A GUY ON THE ROOF WITH A GUN for 30 MINUTES before Trump was shot.

Yeah...we got off track a bit.

This was a huge LE failure....now all agencies involved are pointing fingers and trying to deflect blame. Just as expected.


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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174121
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Just say it was planned (not saying it was) but as u stated that was a chip shot for a skilled shooter (so they assume he cant miss). So go with a 223 with varmint bullets and head shot just to be nice and not hurt anyone else, a larger caliber with a bullet that is going penatrate vest is likely going get someone else. Give him a cheap ar setup to make it look "unprofessional" that way you have a lawyer in OK thinking it's just some loose cannon acting on his own. grin

Only think that went wrong is Trump turning his head at the perfect time. Otherwise plan would have worked perfectly.

You say it was destined to fail but keep in mind as you stated that was a chip shot for someone with some skill even with an AR. The rest is just windows dressing to make it look like a lone nut job.
Just pointing out one argument

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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174125
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In my non-law enforcement opinion, LE dropping the ball is the relevant issue. I can envision no world in which that kid was part a grand scheme and law enforcement ignored him for X number of minutes hoping he would make the shot as part of some conspiracy to take out Trump.

Simple, people. Keep it simple.

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: Blaine County] #8174146
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
In my non-law enforcement opinion, LE dropping the ball is the relevant issue. I can envision no world in which that kid was part a grand scheme and law enforcement ignored him for X number of minutes hoping he would make the shot as part of some conspiracy to take out Trump.

Simple, people. Keep it simple.

The fact you can't envision it isn't the strongest argument counsel. Not saying it was planned but evil people are the same as other evil people throughout history and worst things have been done before.

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: yotetrapper30] #8174148
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I can't believe y'all are arguing about how many shots can be fired in how many minutes and completely ignoring the breaking news that law enforcement KNEW THERE WAS A GUY ON THE ROOF WITH A GUN for 30 MINUTES before Trump was shot.

100% agree.
But this forum has a few know_ it_ alls that will argue about anything they " google".
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Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174159
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Who are you going to trust to investigate it? Merrick Garland? The FBI? Anyone affiliated with Chuck Schumer?

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174163
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There’s clips/videos coming out others have posted of him

But we’re supposed too believe that he never made a single SM post,,,ever????

He was 12 years old when trump was elected,,,,,

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: Yes sir] #8174166
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by Blaine County
In my non-law enforcement opinion, LE dropping the ball is the relevant issue. I can envision no world in which that kid was part a grand scheme and law enforcement ignored him for X number of minutes hoping he would make the shot as part of some conspiracy to take out Trump.

Simple, people. Keep it simple.

The fact you can't envision it isn't the strongest argument counsel. Not saying it was planned but evil people are the same as other evil people throughout history and worst things have been done before.


It's actually not a bad one. I can envision a world with Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Sea Monster and where aliens built the pyramids. That kid being part of some cabal wanting to actually kill Trump is way less likely.

LE negligence, sure. Easy to envision.

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: Posco] #8174168
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Originally Posted by Posco
Who are you going to trust to investigate it? Merrick Garland? The FBI? Anyone affiliated with Chuck Schumer?




I'm voting for Blaine County. He'd tell us the truth even though he's a little slow accepting it. Lol
Sorry just couldn't pass it up.

Re: trump shot at during rally [Re: lady123] #8174176
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BC I came to same conclusion immediately that the kid likely wasn't part of a plan but I do believe there's some in high places that wouldn't be disappointed if some nut job happened to get an opportunity. But if you were thinking on the next level the kid and weapon would be good window decoration but they would have had a better plan to get him.up there unnoticed and to stay unnoticed.

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