And don't forget how SS agents' phones were mysteriously wiped of texts on Jan 6...

Just a tech glitch, I'm sure...

This is where my mind goes. Seems odd that this kid just happens to try the most obvious place for this the day that the teams just happen to have a royal screw up. I cant buy that it was just some disgruntled 20 year old who lucked up into this super position and everything just fell into place.

Are y'all complaining about the female secret service agent on the stage who put her life in danger to protect Trump?

Not sure how a woman stops a bullet better or worse than a man, but I also haven't spent the last two days becoming an internet expert on such things.

Isn't that their job?


No, the one who.couldnt even reholster.
Plus, one on stage did great, BUT she's so small couldn't cover Trump, much less carry him if needed.

Notice they had the A team.last night, all male.
Sexists...

ETA: was one female visible in his detail last night

CBS News.
Not good, if accurate. LE saw him.using a rangefinder earlier???

"Three snipers were stationed inside building used in Trump assassination attempt
There were three snipers stationed inside the building the shooter used during Saturday's shooting of former President Donald Trump, a local law enforcement officer with direct knowledge of the incident tells CBS News.

The operations plan had them stationed inside the building looking out windows toward the Trump rally. The information about the three snipers being inside the building was first reported by BeaverCountian.com.

One of the snipers inside saw Thomas Matthew Crooks outside and looking up at the roof, observing the building and disappearing, a local law enforcement officer tells CBS News.

Crooks came back, sat down and looked at his phone. At that point, one of the snipers took a picture of him. Crooks took out a rangefinder and the sniper radioed to the command post. Crooks disappeared again and then came back a third time with a backpack. The snipers called in with information that he had a backpack and said he was walking towards the back of the building.

Officers believe that Crooks might have used an air conditioning unit to get on top of the roof.

By the time other officers came for backup, he had climbed on top of the building and was positioned above and behind the snipers inside the building, the officer said.

Two other officers who heard the sniper's call tried to get onto the roof. State police started rushing to the scene, but by that time, a Secret Service sniper had already killed Crooks, the officer said."

Did she miss catching a bullet? Did she fail to carry Trump anywhere? I saw her run onstage like the male agents.

LE screwed up generally. When relevant, a legit discussion can be had about whether females can handle certain tasks in LE. This is not one of those situations because her size and gender had no impact on the outcome.

Complaining about the female on stage is just whining to whine.

How so many attendees watched the man crawl around on top of that building with a gun and allowed time to get into position to take a shot at the POTUS is beyond me. No way, those snipers did not see the same thing take place. Why they waited so long to kill him, I don't know.

In the SS gals defense,,,,,she is nearly as round as trump

And, many of those attendees were women. Think about it....

He was there earlier, scoping it out, realized the opportunity that he had and then acted on it. For all we know he’s been at other rallys, waiting for such an opportunity.
The fact that he was there 30 minutes earlier, possibly with a rangefinder then left to get a rifle, makes it even less likely it was a conspiracy setup. There’d be no reason to risk that extra activity.

I know it's extremely uncomfortable to let yourself accept that the government in the country we live in is capable and willing to enable such heinous acts but unfortunately that's reality today . . I'm not even referring to this specific incident necessarily but I just think a lot of people realize it but refuse to let themselves accept that reality due to the uncomfortable nature of it all

You reckon if they saw a guy scouting a place out, looking suspicious, and pointing a range finder around Joe Biden that he wouldnt have been questioned immediately? I could be mistaken, but MK ultra and the likes were just mind control experiments from the government. It doesnt necessarily turn the person into Chris Kyle. If they chose someone who had the basic skills like being on the rifle team then worked their sinister magic when he was "activated" he would still just be relying on his training and processes. Regardless of whether it was a conspiracy or just negligence, the whole thing doesnt add up. Our government does have a history of doing what it takes to achieve their goals though, so thats the way I lean.

Blaine are you that daft? She was to short to cover Trump completely with her body his head was clearly visible above her when she was standing a full hight. In other pictures she is up against him but bent down with her head below his arm. No one is saying she didn't not try and didn't get on stage rather a 6'6" broad shoulder man is better suited for the job. They will be stronger and have a larger body to shield with you know protect. Men are much better suited physically and mentally to protect infact its how we were designed.

Put it in personal perspective. Either of the round chick's in the picture would be dead last of my pick to protect my wife and kids vs the well trained former mil 6'+ men there is to pick from. Especially when one shows she can't even get her weapon put away under stress.

This is not a school resource officer job ( even that they are not qualified for) thie is protecting the former and future president of the United States. They are suppose to be the absolute very best top 1% our country had to offer. Do you truly believe that represents the very best our country has to offer?

I'm sure that's who you would pick out of all the choices in the US to protect you and your family. Something tells me when it would be your but on the line your prospective would change very fast.

Did she fail to carry Trump. The point I'd she could not even begin to pretend she could effectively carry Trump from the start. Instant disqualified right there in a normal world.

Heck I myself in my prime at 5'8" 210lb 9% body fat thick built and lean able to jog 2.2 miles in 18 min should not be qualified for trumps protection detail. Yes I was in great shape and strong but I am to short. It's not a woman can't thing it's a there are requirements that need to be meet that very few meen can meet and nearly zero woman can.

This is the EXACT situation to discuss it.
Pure luck it wasn't a solid hit. What IF she had to block followup shots, or a second shooter?
What IF she HAD to carry him?

Again, I posted a pic of last night's detail.
So SOMEBODY had this very conversation....

Sorry they didn't consult you first, lol

R

All male detail because the women were suffering from anxiety or PTSD

One simple question.

Did the female agent's gender, height or weight cause or contribute to either the incident happening or the outcome? If not, there is no need to discuss it.

A different discussion is generally whether women should be on the job. But again, that is a different discussion that has nothing to do with this incident. A bunch of men and women LE dropped the ball by failing to assess, discover and address what seems like an obvious risk. That is the relevant issue.

Just trying to keep you boys focused on what matters.

I'd rather not wait for the protectee to get shot to figure out that short, fat people who don't perform well under pressure shouldn't be in that position. Balls or boobs don't matter.

The shooter perch and the picture taken
area are two different locations/properties.

No diversion needed, we have media.

Back to the tman girl roast.

If this info is accurate then there is a big question. Primarily, how in the heck did a shooter get on top of a building with police inside that building?

I've been on many security-type details all over Georgia during my career. I was rarely part of the upper level planning for these details, was the field supervisor on many of them. Never were we concerned with gathering Intel when the detail was underway. What was the purpose of taking pics of the guy? Walk your butts out there and confront him....turn him away from the area, especially if LE was using the building as theor local LE sniper post. And that brings up another aspect......this explains why the SS snipers behind DT held off too long b4 they shot. They knew there were local LE inside that building....think about that for a minute.