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Ethical hunter challenge #8186286
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Thought this was a good video, definitely better the backfires sick really I do see why Erik was doing with the 1moa killzones (5") but gotta say pretty sure 98% of those shots would be counted as great a 100yd and just lethal in general. Also which they is one for a high shoulder shot as well since that's what more LR hunter do

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Re: Ethical hunter challenge [Re: Wolfdog91] #8186288
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Just watched it a couple hrs ago. I like it and some of the " test ur ability" videos the Backfire channel does.

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Prone or a good rest, no wind, I would take that shot. A good killing shot does not have to be MOA. Mark out vitals I will do it.


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Funny,
I was just practicing at 500yds this morning to shoot deer. I'm to the point that I'm comfortable with taking a shot at that distance,v but am going to keep practicing with this gun until season opens.


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Re: Ethical hunter challenge [Re: danny clifton] #8186293
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Prone or a good rest, no wind, I would take that shot. A good killing shot does not have to be MOA. Mark out vitals I will do it.

I think he does 1 moa as a margin of error thing, but yeah a deers vitals are bigger than 1 moa at 500 yards

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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Just watched it a couple hrs ago. I like it and some of the " test ur ability" videos the Backfire channel does.

Honestly can't stand the back fire one , I just cringe aso bad at most of those guys

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Not really a hunting "rifle" challenge...with competition/target rifles.


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Re: Ethical hunter challenge [Re: hippie] #8186299
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Originally Posted by hippie
Funny,
I was just practicing at 500yds this morning to shoot deer. I'm to the point that I'm comfortable with taking a shot at that distance,v but am going to keep practicing with this gun until season opens.

I shot to longer ranges regularly and my ethical range matters a lot on wind conditions and the rest and shooting position I'm in. Not saying you can't make a 500 yd shot regularly but a large percentage of the people that think they can fail at doing it under simulated hunting conditions.

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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Originally Posted by Yes sir
Just watched it a couple hrs ago. I like it and some of the " test ur ability" videos the Backfire channel does.

Honestly can't stand the back fire one , I just cringe aso bad at most of those guys

That's intresting, is it the host or the guys doing the shooting challenge?

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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by hippie
Funny,
I was just practicing at 500yds this morning to shoot deer. I'm to the point that I'm comfortable with taking a shot at that distance,v but am going to keep practicing with this gun until season opens.

I shot to longer ranges regularly and my ethical range matters a lot on wind conditions and the rest and shooting position I'm in. Not saying you can't make a 500 yd shot regularly but a large percentage of the people that think they can fail at doing it under simulated hunting conditions.


We haven't had a windy day yet when I've been shooting, but will pay close attention when I do. I only have 60rds thru this gun, a 6.5-300weatherby but its been doing real good.

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Re: Ethical hunter challenge [Re: Wolfdog91] #8186309
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Ur lucky. Anything under 10 mph is calm here and this year I've had to wait up to a week just to get an evening when it's close to 10 mph

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lol, yea I've been hunting out your way and know there's always a wind.

I'm in the mountains and its very seldom windy. Its almost straight up and ill be shooting across to the next mountain side that's the same. I ranged it last season at 500 to most shoot able clearing which is why I'm practicing at that range.


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Originally Posted by Yes sir

That's intresting, is it the host or the guys doing the shooting challenge?


Mainly back fire like he does a lot of click baity stuff and it's just, I feel like honestly he's saying stuff because he knows a certain demographic will eat it up .

Also his challenge it's just.... Ugh , like his first milk judge challenge, they got this guy and ... Lord I'm just watching what he's doing and it's OBVIOUS that he had so business shooting outside of 100yd.

With he long range stuff he does my problem is he tries to say no one should do it then brings in people who don't and try to have them do it to show " HA HA ! SEEEEE !!!" but I dit. Think he's ever brought on someone who's actually a LR hunter ,someone who that's what they do, it's their specialty, their comfortable with it, that put into he work to get to that level.

I just feel like he's missing a massive point of , not that it's unethical or it shouldn't be done BUT that to get to that level you need to work hard train hard and hold yourself to a high standard... Which honestly most hunter don't or won't

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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Not really a hunting "rifle" challenge...with competition/target rifles.

I can't a agree
Even though this is what a lot of LR hunters are moving to ? Like it's noting more then using the properly built tool for the job. It's like if you told me hay you need to take this achery shot @50yd . I'm not taking my recurve when I have a compound. That type of shooting is a different animal and realistically requires different gear. You can make stuff work but we'll.....

Talking with and researching guys who long range hunting , the idea of using you traditional .270 for 500yd shots.....yeah no , you will get laughed out the room

Like coyote trapping with a 1.5coil. you can do it ....but using a no bs k9 extreme makes a lot more sense

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Originally Posted by hippie
Funny,
I was just practicing at 500yds this morning to shoot deer. I'm to the point that I'm comfortable with taking a shot at that distance,v but am going to keep practicing with this gun until season opens.


PRACTICE?! You mean you don't just shoot a few shells the day before opener to make sure....ok I'll stop grin

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laugh

Nah, I want to plug one if the trigger is pulled.


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Hay hippe think you could talk a bit more on your 6.5-300 ? Sounds interesting , especially since I'm thinking of getting my 30-06 re barreled to a 6.5-06

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Keep in mind the guys on Backfire accept the challenge, he's not picking them. And he did have one guy I know of on his hunting challenge that was a professional guide that hunted a lot on his own.
On his 1 moa challenges he's offering money to ANYONE at the range who can do it. He's just showing what the average shooters ability is. Most people over rate their skill when it comes to shooting. And his videos prove it. Even Cortina has stated 600 is his max under good conditions for a shot while hunting and he regularly out shots the best shooters in the world. This LR hunting thing has gotten way too carried away. Most of it because youtube and most rarely talk or show their misses. In reality most people aren't the American Sniper they want to be.

Are there guys that can make some really long shots while hunting? Yes, they are a very small minority, but too many see it done on youtube and they think they are good to go and it simply is poor hunting ethics and is bad for hunting.

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It's an outta the box vanguard I paid 599.95 +tax for from Grices gun shop. I am also shooting factory Weather by shells that cost me 59.95 + tax per box, simply because I needed brass and bras alone was 66$ per 20. That was a no brainer, I'm getting my brass loaded for 6 bucks less than emptied brass. Go figure!

I have a vortex strike eagle on it that's 4-24 power. I think it was on dale at midway when I bought it for 499.

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It stays within the 9 ring Unless I do something stupid, lol.


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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Not really a hunting "rifle" challenge...with competition/target rifles.

I can't a agree
Even though this is what a lot of LR hunters are moving to ? Like it's noting more then using the properly built tool for the job. It's like if you told me hay you need to take this achery shot @50yd . I'm not taking my recurve when I have a compound. That type of shooting is a different animal and realistically requires different gear. You can make stuff work but we'll.....

Talking with and researching guys who long range hunting , the idea of using you traditional .270 for 500yd shots.....yeah no , you will get laughed out the room

Like coyote trapping with a 1.5coil. you can do it ....but using a no bs k9 extreme makes a lot more sense

All do respect wolfie your LR hunting experience is all internet based I believe.

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