Re: Woodstove/Chimney Pipe Question
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You'll never know if you put to much protection on your wall!
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Re: Woodstove/Chimney Pipe Question
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Double wall insulated pipe is as much about protection from chimney fire as it is about clearance. If you keep it clean and do your 8” to 6” deal I would think you’d be fine. They make short pieces of double wall too. Menards sells 12” and 18” lengths if you just wanna use it where you go through the wall. Yep that is the way I'm going. A 6 through an 8.
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Re: Woodstove/Chimney Pipe Question
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Now that would work, thanks.
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Re: Woodstove/Chimney Pipe Question
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I think you'll be ok doing as you describe. My trapline cabin is similar but the pipe goes straight up through the roof with just a metal roof jack. It is single wall pipe with about 10 inches clearance to combustibles. Been like that since 1985 and used a lot at 65 below. What I don't like is the two elbows in your set up. I would replace the outside elbow with a Tee......Cap off the end of the Tee but still so you can remove it to clean out that area. Creosote may collect there. Thank White> I'm going up and through the roof not out the wall. After contemplating on how I want to do it I have decided after today.
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Re: Woodstove/Chimney Pipe Question
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Now that would work, thanks. You bet! They have an adapter for the transition from regular pipe to double wall. I used the adapter for inside transition. On the outside I just put female end of tee inside the double wall to go up (on our river shack). I would use screws to secure the cap on bottom of tee outside. If it falls off it can cause a whole host of problems. https://www.menards.com/main/heatin...ase/p-1444453727027-c-6894.htm?exp=falseYou could also run a piece of tin behind chimney up the outside wall to protect wall from chimney fire. Or use double wall pipe until your above roof line. I have found the black pipe takes a beating when exposed outside, especially at the joints. Might need to inspect them regularly. The double wall stainless seems to last forever outside.
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Re: Woodstove/Chimney Pipe Question
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I always ran a straight pipe to avoid creosote build up issues, the straight pipe was more self cleaning. There was times you could hear the pieces falling into the stove when it got rolling. Always ran the thicker pipe (heavy gauge) thickness no fire dept was going to make it in there in the winter months.
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Re: Woodstove/Chimney Pipe Question
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Be sure you have a CO detector in the cabin particularly in really cold weather.
When you have the fire dampened way down for the night, the single wall pipe (especially if it is several feet long) will allow the exhaust to cool so much that it will collapse back down the pipe and leak back into the room.
I have experienced this firsthand, I fixed the problem by switching to double wall pipe.
I should mention that the single wall pipe I was using was exposed to the outside air for about 16 feet. It exited out the wall and extended outside, up the gable wall end to above the roof line.
I kind of have the hunch that this type of occurrence may be what led to the old stories about guys dying in their cabins due to the lack of oxygen. I'll bet it was actually CO poisoning.
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Re: Woodstove/Chimney Pipe Question
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Best cabin wood stove heater was a 30 gallon Barrel stove with a plate of steel on top of it allowing for a flat surface for the coffee pot. Pipe came straight out of the top in the back no elbow to plug up.
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Re: Woodstove/Chimney Pipe Question
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With a new stove and pipe it will smoke and stink up the place. It's always years between me geting another one in different locations so I forget but always think dang u should have fired this thing once outside first to burn off the stuff that stinks up the house. Just something I always think about after the fact. Thought it may be something that may be of interest to you. New ranges, wall ovens, etc is the same. I always burn them off for a few hours at maximum heat, just part of being a good contractor. I dont expect a homeowner to be aware of this, and it prevents a po'd client with a ruined dinner
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Re: Woodstove/Chimney Pipe Question
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Come to think of it, I did use a capped T, instead of an elbow, for just that reason White, I forgot about that....makes it easier to brush out the vertical pipe too. The T will also prevent smelly condensation water from running down pipe and entering the pipe coming inside to the stove. I actually have a small drain hole in bottom cap. A #9 wire going in the hole down to the ground to direct water. Ice needs to be knocked off this wire from time to time.
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Re: Woodstove/Chimney Pipe Question
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A guy young rancher knew I was building a shack and wondered if I needed an insulated section on 6 inch. Boy my ear pinned back and said yes!!! Now here is my question with just one stick. Should I center this one link of pipe through the tin and add single wall below and above insulated link??? I will need more pipe on top.
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