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Changes in real estate commissions #8197665
08/17/24 09:44 AM
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Lots of stories about this. Practically none of them get it right.

Traditionally, seller paid real estate commission to selling agent, who then split it with agent who brought the buyer........that 2nd agent is typically referred to as the "buyers agent", although technically, since he was paid by the seller, he too is an agent of the seller. Although he is working with the buyer, his loyalty is / was to be to the guy paying him......the seller. The lawsuit that challenged this did so as a seller finally asked........"why am I paying the buyer's agent to work against me"?

So going forward, seller will pay his agent. The agent working with the buyer will be paid by the buyer (who was paying both ends anyway), and buyer's agents can now legally do what they have been doing all along........working to get the best deal for the buyer. A true buyer's agent.

All the rest of the crapola in the news is from people who don't have a clue, but do have a lot of ink to waste.


Easy to vote your way into socialism, but impossible to vote your way out of it.
Re: Changes in real estate commissions [Re: HayDay] #8197708
08/17/24 10:42 AM
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I see more homes for sale by owner now due to high commission rates. With social media and websites galore, why would anyone pay a sellers agent 6-7 percent to sell your home ($35k on a $500k home). Do your own advertising and hire a real estate attorney for a couple grand to handle the paperwork when the deal is struck. Done it a couple times....saved 10s of thousands of dollars this way. Real estate agents are vastly overpaid (my opinion only).....but if people are still willing to pay them, more power to them.

Re: Changes in real estate commissions [Re: midlander] #8197760
08/17/24 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by midlander
I see more homes for sale by owner now due to high commission rates. With social media and websites galore, why would anyone pay a sellers agent 6-7 percent to sell your home ($35k on a $500k home). Do your own advertising and hire a real estate attorney for a couple grand to handle the paperwork when the deal is struck. Done it a couple times....saved 10s of thousands of dollars this way. Real estate agents are vastly overpaid (my opinion only).....but if people are still willing to pay them, more power to them.



It's like any service provided. I can say paying 120 an hour labor to fix my truck is crazy it's easy to do most repairs myself for example. But people still pay it. Why becuse they don't know how to fix it, don't have time , or just don't want to and would rather pay the price to have it done.

Re: Changes in real estate commissions [Re: HayDay] #8197818
08/17/24 02:06 PM
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There is nothing sacred about RE commissions. They may ask for 6%, but that is negotiable. It could just as easy be 4%. If a person does not know all the ins and outs of handling the transaction, it may pay to use one. If they are really doing their job, they are worth it. Unless you really know the value of the property you are selling, you could lose way more that the commission just by not pricing it right. And that is but one aspect of it.


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Re: Changes in real estate commissions [Re: HayDay] #8197868
08/17/24 03:11 PM
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Like said above, realtors are overpriced and unneeded. I never used them when buying so I would automatically have a reason for a 3% reduction (which the seller's realtor would squawk about but get over).

Re: Changes in real estate commissions [Re: HayDay] #8197993
08/17/24 06:59 PM
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The last ones I talked to wanted 9 percent.

Re: Changes in real estate commissions [Re: Spike369] #8198115
08/17/24 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike369
The last ones I talked to wanted 9 percent.

Was it on a very modest trailer house or something? 9 percent is nuts.

Re: Changes in real estate commissions [Re: Blaine County] #8198127
08/17/24 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Like said above, realtors are overpriced and unneeded. I never used them when buying so I would automatically have a reason for a 3% reduction (which the seller's realtor would squawk about but get over).



That's funny! A good broker will keep their client out of a real estate lawsuit where overpaid lawyers (who don't really know real estate law and are terrified to litigate it) rape both parties involved until there is nothing left to give and then miraculous settle it.

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Re: Changes in real estate commissions [Re: HayDay] #8198129
08/17/24 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by HayDay
Lots of stories about this. Practically none of them get it right.

Traditionally, seller paid real estate commission to selling agent, who then split it with agent who brought the buyer........that 2nd agent is typically referred to as the "buyers agent", although technically, since he was paid by the seller, he too is an agent of the seller. Although he is working with the buyer, his loyalty is / was to be to the guy paying him......the seller. The lawsuit that challenged this did so as a seller finally asked........"why am I paying the buyer's agent to work against me"?

So going forward, seller will pay his agent. The agent working with the buyer will be paid by the buyer (who was paying both ends anyway), and buyer's agents can now legally do what they have been doing all along........working to get the best deal for the buyer. A true buyer's agent.

All the rest of the crapola in the news is from people who don't have a clue, but do have a lot of ink to waste.


Sellers have always had the option to pay or not pay a cobroker commission.
They took something that wasn't really a problem and made it one. Wait until you see all the discrimination lawsuits that come from this when a protected class buyer is quoted a higher commission by a buyers agent than someone else was.

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Re: Changes in real estate commissions [Re: HayDay] #8198147
08/17/24 09:39 PM
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Please ty of buyers I bet, that aren't comfortable dealing with owner sales. Sel,er agent is responsible for all the legal stuff. Deep pocket to sue if something goes wrong after the sale is final. I don't see a problem buying without an agent but can also see some advantages to having a buyers agent. Buying g and selling real estate isn't a black and white deal. Lots of gray to get either side in trouble!

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