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Re: "Point of the shoulder" shot ? [Re: Yes sir] #8203082
08/25/24 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
...so me being dumbs here again..... Is the blue dot I put on Thai pic about what the guys talking about or .
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I'd think point of shoulder would technically be a bit more forward and a fudge lower. Be a bit ahead of leg even in a quartering to angle

Soo like here ?
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Re: "Point of the shoulder" shot ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #8203098
08/25/24 06:33 PM
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I'd say that's pretty close. Personally I'd aim a bit higher to try and be in the center of the target area and give myself more margin

Re: "Point of the shoulder" shot ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #8203106
08/25/24 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Not really talking about deer here


… well I was


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: "Point of the shoulder" shot ? [Re: Savell] #8203107
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Originally Posted by Savell
Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Not really talking about deer here


… well I was

We're use to ur wondering

Re: "Point of the shoulder" shot ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #8203163
08/25/24 08:13 PM
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Wolfie if your coss hair landed there , send it

I line up front leg and middle of body veritical

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in the picture below when your looking at the front quarter outlined in blue , the spine drawn in black , place for shot red
that is what I mean by point of shoulder , they go down in sub 3 steps when hit there and if you miss back you ha
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ve s shoulder and heart lungs if your a little off it still gets good stuff
strait on go middle up down center left right , because that spine comes down to the middle between the shoulders you hit it still
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Re: "Point of the shoulder" shot ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #8203218
08/25/24 09:53 PM
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Seems to be a lot of back and forth about fur friendly vs. dead right there.
The guy Wolfie is referring to seems to me to be talking about anchoring a coyote just like you do a cape buffalo.
A shot which hits point of shoulder at any animal quartering toward you is a spine shot, either directly or close enough to paralyze.
So looking at Wolfie's blue dot coyote picture, that blue dot would need to come up to about half way from that position and that coyote's nose to be considered a quartering toward, point of shoulder spine shot.
Best shot placement for dumping it. Best shot for fur? I don't think that is relevant in that guys discussion.

Re: "Point of the shoulder" shot ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #8203221
08/25/24 10:01 PM
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Use enough gun and anywhere along that horizontal line will drop a coyote, lol. May not be fur friendly though.

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Re: "Point of the shoulder" shot ? [Re: 52Carl] #8203228
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Seems to be a lot of back and forth about fur friendly vs. dead right there.
The guy Wolfie is referring to seems to me to be talking about anchoring a coyote just like you do a cape buffalo.
A shot which hits point of shoulder at any animal quartering toward you is a spine shot, either directly or close enough to paralyze.
So looking at Wolfie's blue dot coyote picture, that blue dot would need to come up to about half way from that position and that coyote's nose to be considered a quartering toward, point of shoulder spine shot.
Best shot placement for dumping it. Best shot for fur? I don't think that is relevant in that guys discussion.


Ok sooo if I'm getting you right like where these dots are ?
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Re: "Point of the shoulder" shot ? [Re: 52Carl] #8203263
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Seems to be a lot of back and forth about fur friendly vs. dead right there.
The guy Wolfie is referring to seems to me to be talking about anchoring a coyote just like you do a cape buffalo.
A shot which hits point of shoulder at any animal quartering toward you is a spine shot, either directly or close enough to paralyze.
So looking at Wolfie's blue dot coyote picture, that blue dot would need to come up to about half way from that position and that coyote's nose to be considered a quartering toward, point of shoulder spine shot.
Best shot placement for dumping it. Best shot for fur? I don't think that is relevant in that guys discussion.

That what I'd call high shoulder or shoulder blades to me point of shoulder is in front of leg and about 1/3 way up

Re: "Point of the shoulder" shot ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #8203272
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Originally Posted by 52Carl
Seems to be a lot of back and forth about fur friendly vs. dead right there.
The guy Wolfie is referring to seems to me to be talking about anchoring a coyote just like you do a cape buffalo.
A shot which hits point of shoulder at any animal quartering toward you is a spine shot, either directly or close enough to paralyze.
So looking at Wolfie's blue dot coyote picture, that blue dot would need to come up to about half way from that position and that coyote's nose to be considered a quartering toward, point of shoulder spine shot.
Best shot placement for dumping it. Best shot for fur? I don't think that is relevant in that guys discussion.


Ok sooo if I'm getting you right like where these dots are ?
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Nope too high at least one of those is just a good haircut

Re: "Point of the shoulder" shot ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #8203277
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Shot a yote coming straight at me deer hunting once the bullet went down the side of the pelt looking a straight razor was involved huge slice in the hide.


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Re: "Point of the shoulder" shot ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #8203278
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
[quote=52Carl]

Ok sooo if I'm getting you right like where these dots are ?
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you can't just pick the spot on the outside

a good way to think of it is you want to shoot through the space between the two shoulders half way up from chest to back right along that spinal line

a bunch of your shots there if fired in the blue or very little above the blue would be fluff and not the part you want to hit.


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Re: "Point of the shoulder" shot ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #8203284
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this point anchors everything as long as you can get a bullet close to that point it goes down

here is a side image blue marks the spine , the red is where I would shoot , that point is what you want to pass through or near no matter the angle or direction they are your shooting for a spot at the front edge of the
scapula , if you hit the scapula unless your using s really fragmenting bullet it will work also


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I couldn't find a good coyote bone structure diagram but this is close enough

and if your a little off you still get good stuff

people think the spine is high and it is After it passes between the scapula

this may not be fur friendly , but the guy was talking about anchoring , this anchors

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Re: "Point of the shoulder" shot ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #8203286
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this may not be where he where carl would shoot them but this is where I would shoot them
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Re: "Point of the shoulder" shot ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #8203386
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It’s not just where you hit them it’s what it will do behind the hit. A heart shot from a tree stand is a graze if you shoot where it’s a kill shot from the ground just simply different angles. That middle yote shot is guaranteed disappointment shooting high and away with nothing vital in the bullets path beyond the fur.


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Re: "Point of the shoulder" shot ? [Re: Wanna Be] #8203390
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Use enough gun and anywhere along that horizontal line will drop a coyote, lol. May not be fur friendly though.

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Except the far right side of the horizontal line….. grin

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