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Re: Broadhead Talk [Re: backroadsarcher] #8212598
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Originally Posted by backroadsarcher
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Wasp Jak Hammer 100 grain 3 blade

For deer you bet use them also.

Yes...whitetails. Have never shot any other critter with the Wasps.

Have killed a bunch of deer and feral hogs with Muzzy 90 gr 4 blade, but that 1" cut leaves no room for error.


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Re: Broadhead Talk [Re: SGT. C] #8212612
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Started out with thunderhead 125's back in the 80's. Got on the mechanical kick in the 90's and 2000's mid 2010's went to the Trophy Taker shuttle T lock 100 grain and never looked back. Been using in my crossbow for about 5 years now super accurate great penetration big blood trails. If I do my part most fall within 30 yards.


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Re: Broadhead Talk [Re: SGT. C] #8212626
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I’m sure I’d have to tinker if I bought a new bow, but 125 grain QAD Exodus has caused a lot of deer death for me in the last 5 years. Have passed through every deer I’ve shot and left a good blood trail.

I’ve had several mechanicals fail in the past and have a distrust for them. I’ve tested my QADs out to 60 and they fly beautifully, cut a nice wound channel, and are durable as all get out.

Re: Broadhead Talk [Re: SGT. C] #8212634
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Killed a few muleys with my old bear recurve and bear broadheads. Have not seen them in quite awhile. Had a little insert. Main blade was kinda triangle shaped. 35 yards was about as far as I would shoot. Never shot elk or bear with a bow.


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Re: Broadhead Talk [Re: SGT. C] #8212734
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Muzzy 3 blade here also, haven't had a deer go more than 50yds.

Re: Broadhead Talk [Re: newhouse114] #8212790
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Originally Posted by newhouse114
For those that have graduated from using training wheels, any good solid fixed blade! There are several good ones.


I shot 155gr Grizzly LW single bevels for a ling time and killed a number of different species. Going with the Abowyer Wapiti 175gr LW this year

Re: Broadhead Talk [Re: SGT. C] #8212796
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I love my Grim Reapers 125 grain mechanical for my crossbow, 100 percent success.

Re: Broadhead Talk [Re: SGT. C] #8212806
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I run muzzys on both the xbow and the compound. I hated dealing with the collars and o rings on mechanicals so went to fixed blades. Never lost a deer that I hit with any broadhead., Put em in the kill zone and they dont go far. I staked a doe a few years out of the xbow with the muzzy, shoulder hit, dropped her to the ground and she didnt get back up.

Re: Broadhead Talk [Re: newhouse114] #8212816
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Originally Posted by newhouse114
For those that have graduated from using training wheels, any good solid fixed blade! There are several good ones.


For the record, recovery rates on deer shot with mechanical broadheads, whether out of a verticle bow or crossbow, are higher than they are on fixed blade broadheads. Im thinking there are a few folks that need to put their 'training wheels' back on grin

Re: Broadhead Talk [Re: midlander] #8212819
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Originally Posted by midlander
Originally Posted by newhouse114
For those that have graduated from using training wheels, any good solid fixed blade! There are several good ones.


For the record, recovery rates on deer shot with mechanical broadheads, whether out of a verticle bow or crossbow, are higher than they are on fixed blade broadheads. Im thinking there are a few folks that need to put their 'training wheels' back on grin

are we talking about every deer shot with bows or ones that guys call the tracking dogs for?

Re: Broadhead Talk [Re: midlander] #8212826
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Originally Posted by midlander
Originally Posted by newhouse114
For those that have graduated from using training wheels, any good solid fixed blade! There are several good ones.


For the record, recovery rates on deer shot with mechanical broadheads, whether out of a verticle bow or crossbow, are higher than they are on fixed blade broadheads. Im thinking there are a few folks that need to put their 'training wheels' back on grin

Guy that brought his tracking dog out to find my deer wouldn't agree with u. Last I heard they were tracking over a 100 deer a year with their dog so they have a lot of first hand experience.

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Tracking dog guy certainly has some experience tracking dogs, but probably not real scientific. Here is a study that is likely more scientific and more believable for me.
I will state for the record, everone should shoot whatever they're comfortable with, but dont try to poopoo others....especially when the facts appear to conclude just the opposite....



https://deerassociation.com/high-deer-recovery-rates-fixed-blade-mechanical-broadheads/#:~:text=Mechanical%20vs.,209%20out%20of%20230%20hit).

Re: Broadhead Talk [Re: midlander] #8212841
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Originally Posted by midlander

Tracking dog guy certainly has some experience tracking dogs, but probably not real scientific. Here is a study that is likely more scientific and more believable for me.
I will state for the record, everone should shoot whatever they're comfortable with, but dont try to poopoo others....especially when the facts appear to conclude just the opposite....



https://deerassociation.com/high-deer-recovery-rates-fixed-blade-mechanical-broadheads/#:~:text=Mechanical%20vs.,209%20out%20of%20230%20hit).
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Interesting that they don’t even mention traditional archers! Mechanicals are a strict no-no for trad shooters! The trad guys place a higher emphasis on “hunting”, getting close, rather than pulling a trigger at 60 plus yards

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Re: Broadhead Talk [Re: newhouse114] #8212847
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Originally Posted by newhouse114
Originally Posted by midlander

Tracking dog guy certainly has some experience tracking dogs, but probably not real scientific. Here is a study that is likely more scientific and more believable for me.
I will state for the record, everone should shoot whatever they're comfortable with, but dont try to poopoo others....especially when the facts appear to conclude just the opposite....



https://deerassociation.com/high-deer-recovery-rates-fixed-blade-mechanical-broadheads/#:~:text=Mechanical%20vs.,209%20out%20of%20230%20hit).
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Interesting that they don’t even mention traditional archers! Mechanicals are a strict no-no for trad shooters! The trad guys place a higher emphasis on “hunting”, getting close, rather than pulling a trigger at 60 plus yards


Im just speculating that the overall percentage of true traditional archers is a very small number compared to wheeled verticle bows and crossbows. I just thought it was an interesting read...

Re: Broadhead Talk [Re: midlander] #8212853
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Originally Posted by midlander

Tracking dog guy certainly has some experience tracking dogs, but probably not real scientific. Here is a study that is likely more scientific and more believable for me.
I will state for the record, everone should shoot whatever they're comfortable with, but dont try to poopoo others....especially when the facts appear to conclude just the opposite....



https://deerassociation.com/high-deer-recovery-rates-fixed-blade-mechanical-broadheads/#:~:text=Mechanical%20vs.,209%20out%20of%20230%20hit).



I'll try to read the study when I have time. Bottom line for me is I've heard more stories of failure with mechanicals when everything else appeared to done properly than fixed blades. Off the top of my head I've personally never heard of a fixed blade falling when everything else appears to have been done correctly but I'm sure it has happened.

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Originally Posted by midlander

Tracking dog guy certainly has some experience tracking dogs, but probably not real scientific. Here is a study that is likely more scientific and more believable for me.
I will state for the record, everone should shoot whatever they're comfortable with, but dont try to poopoo others....especially when the facts appear to conclude just the opposite....



https://deerassociation.com/high-deer-recovery-rates-fixed-blade-mechanical-broadheads/#:~:text=Mechanical%20vs.,209%20out%20of%20230%20hit).



I know more people that switched back to fixed heads. Another forum I go on that's 99% hunting kinda shows the trend. Many of these guys are hard core. They only bow hunt. They scout year round. It's all they do. They dont fish or golf. They just hunt. I'll take their word and results over a weekend warrior's word any day. Mechanicals do work of course, but they can fail too. The fixed head that's super sharp is better. It just is.

Re: Broadhead Talk [Re: D.T.] #8212863
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Originally Posted by D.T.
Originally Posted by newhouse114
For those that have graduated from using training wheels, any good solid fixed blade! There are several good ones.


I shot 155gr Grizzly LW single bevels for a ling time and killed a number of different species. Going with the Abowyer Wapiti 175gr LW this year


I’ve gone to a three blade cutthroat, 250 gr. Very happy with the results. Shot a 250 grain grizzly for years but I kinda like that third blade.


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Re: Broadhead Talk [Re: SGT. C] #8212868
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If you've never lost a single deer after hitting it with a broadhead, then you are either a novice hunter that hasn't had many opportunities, haven't took many deer with a bow, or are not being truthful.

For those that say they've never lost a deer with a bow, then you should qualify that statement with how many you have killed with a bow and arrow.

I've lost about half a dozen since my 1st bowkill in the early 80s. All were bad hits....all my fault. A couple of those appeared to be great hits based on observed arrow impact location.

I've dragged out over 100 whitetails I've killed with a bow and about 4 doz feral hogs.

Shot Muzzy 90 gr 4 blade fixed (1" cut) since the early 80s when Muzzy 1st became a company. All the deer I've lost with bow were when using those Muzzys.

I started using the Wasp Jak-Hammer 100 grain (front end deploying 1.75" cut) about 7 or 8 years ago. I will never change. The wounds are incredible (compared to the Muzzy 90s). I have killed 15 or so deer with these...from 75lb south Ga does to 250+lb north Missouri bucks.

Have made a liver hit that fell within sight and died there. Made a liver hit with a Muzzy that ran 1300 yds and recovered next day.)

Had an arrow deflect off a myrtle bush branch and slice a mature doe across her back. Two of the 3 Wasp blades opened and created what looked like 2 hatchet strikes on her back....above her spine. She made it about 80 yds and collapsed. Took another arrow to finish her. The Muzzy 90 would've not done that.

I've not shot a hog with one yet, but other than directly in the shoulder shield, I'm very confident they'll get 'er done.

I've bought up a bunch of the Wasps...what a fantastic broadhead!

I shoot a Mathews Triax........NOT a crossbow....never have.


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https://youtu.be/UuOQL063Sy4?si=dj-jNe7TRWDuIQhU
I don't follow these guys so I'm not sure how solid they are on all their views but it's pretty discussion on fixed blades and mechanicals . Their story seems to be a pretty common theme amongst hunters

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Originally Posted by midlander
Originally Posted by newhouse114
For those that have graduated from using training wheels, any good solid fixed blade! There are several good ones.


For the record, recovery rates on deer shot with mechanical broadheads, whether out of a verticle bow or crossbow, are higher than they are on fixed blade broadheads. Im thinking there are a few folks that need to put their 'training wheels' back on grin

I don't believe that for one second.

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