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Trespassers #8216643
09/15/24 09:23 PM
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chippwewa falls WI
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Today I got a text from a fella that lives near our family forty in rusk county Wisconsin. Apparently some hound hunters treed and shot a bear on our marked property (without permission). It doesn't bother me that they killed the bear, it's that they did it on my family's property. In a world where so many people are trying to limit hunting and trapping rights, ya'd think that everyone would be a little bit more careful what they do where.

Last edited by chippewatrapper; 09/15/24 09:26 PM.

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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8216650
09/15/24 09:27 PM
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to bad you get in trouble I'd you deal with them like they deserve. Should be able to walk in their front door and shoot their Pets. No difference between the two to me.

Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8216651
09/15/24 09:27 PM
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Are the lines clearly marked and posted?


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Re: Trespassers [Re: Providence Farm] #8216653
09/15/24 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
to bad you get in trouble I'd you deal with them like they deserve. Should be able to walk in their front door and shoot their Pets. No difference between the two to me.


Difference is if you walk in someone’s front door carrying a gun Odds are some one will carry you out

Re: Trespassers [Re: Providence Farm] #8216655
09/15/24 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
to bad you get in trouble I'd you deal with them like they deserve. Should be able to walk in their front door and shoot their Pets. No difference between the two to me.


How do you stop good dogs?


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Re: Trespassers [Re: jbyrd63] #8216658
09/15/24 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
to bad you get in trouble I'd you deal with them like they deserve. Should be able to walk in their front door and shoot their Pets. No difference between the two to me.


Difference is if you walk in someone’s front door carrying a gun Odds are some one will carry you out


glad you said it....


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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8216664
09/15/24 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chippewatrapper
Today I got a text from a fella that lives near our family forty in rusk county Wisconsin. Apparently some hound hunters treed and shot a bear on our marked property (without permission). It doesn't bother me that they killed the bear, it's that they did it on my family's property.



Before everyone became so sensitive , no one really cared if someone hunted on their property.
Everyone got along, and often hunted each others property.
I loved the 1950's and early 1960's , when no one cared if you hunted their property , as long as you didn't trash it!
Then city people came out and thought it's free land, and do as you please, chop down the trees for fun. shoot the sap buckets because it's a target.
Shoot the sheep because it's an animal.
It was so much better back then , no one really cared until someone started to destroy everything through pure ignorance.
Now everyone thinks , hey lets see if we can climb that hill with this ATV or 4 wheel drive truck .
Hey no one is around just throw this can and our garbage in a pile here.
Respect has gone out of our lives, because of people that have no idea about life outside their city lives.


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Re: Trespassers [Re: Vinke] #8216668
09/15/24 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Vinke
Are the lines clearly marked and posted?

Why would it have to be clearly marked and posted??? You never hunt anywhere here without asking first. You have to have the responsibility as a hunter to know where YOU are at.


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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8216671
09/15/24 09:45 PM
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^^^^^ This^^^^ I can run 30 miles of dike or field edge still on my 4 wheeler, until the city and the highway bridge that has guard rail and no bank to go under


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Re: Trespassers [Re: Providence Farm] #8216682
09/15/24 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
to bad you get in trouble I'd you deal with them like they deserve. Should be able to walk in their front door and shoot their Pets. No difference between the two to me.

That's a real smart idea to walk into someone's house and shoot there pets.

Re: Trespassers [Re: snowy] #8216686
09/15/24 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by snowy
Originally Posted by Vinke
Are the lines clearly marked and posted?

Why would it have to be clearly marked and posted??? You never hunt anywhere here without asking first. You have to have the responsibility as a hunter to know where YOU are at.


Used to be didn't need to be posted as long as it was fenced but now fences don't mean squat to some


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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8216689
09/15/24 10:21 PM
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^^^^That was in the question,,,,,,LINES CLEARLY MARKED......
Sound like you never run dogs..^^^


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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8216690
09/15/24 10:22 PM
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Unfortunately it's a common problem. It's one thing to be way out in the woods and do this, which is still very dishonest and carries heavy ramifications if caught, but to poach animals in a suburb, off a highway, etc takes a very special person. I've heard stories of bullets flying through houses, arrows through windows. Elk and deer shot and left in the yard. Like one fellow just posted here that someone though it would be funny to run over his catch with a snow mobile. The law is way too lenient on the special people if you ask me.

Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8216693
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The law is clear and is written the same in most every state.

3 wire fence does not count as a private property marker
Signs 5 to the mile --fence or no fence
5 wire or better fence is private property, no sign needed

As it relates to trespassing, if you're asked to leave, you had better do it, marked or not

Shooting animals on private land without permission is poaching. Doesn't matter if it's marked or not.

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Re: Trespassers [Re: 2bit] #8216697
09/15/24 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2bit
The law is clear and is written the same in most every state.

3 wire fence does not count as a private property marker
Signs 5 to the mile --fence or no fence
5 wire or better fence is private property, no sign needed

As it relates to trespassing, if you're asked to leave, you had better do it, marked or not

Shooting animals on private land without permission is poaching. Doesn't matter if it's marked or not.


A fence in WA constitutes a property line after 7 years, even if it is on yours.....Court battle after that.
Neighbor put lines on are property and put in a fence, after a survey to try to establish this.


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Re: Trespassers [Re: Jingles] #8216698
09/15/24 10:44 PM
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chippwewa falls WI
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Why would it have to be clearly marked and posted??? You never hunt anywhere here without asking first. You have to have the responsibility as a hunter to know where YOU are at. [/quote]

Used to be didn't need to be posted as long as it was fenced but now fences don't mean squat to some[/quote]


Wisconsin doesn't require private property to be marked. It is legally the hunters responsibility to know where they are.


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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8216700
09/15/24 10:51 PM
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Personally I don’t see what the big deal is. If you don’t care if they killed the bear and they didn’t do any damage to the property why even think twice about it?

Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8216701
09/15/24 10:52 PM
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Stuff happens running dogs,,,, Did you call the police or Game department/?


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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8216702
09/15/24 10:53 PM
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Hound dogs have a hard time reading signs, and they duck under fences without a second thought.

In timber country where I grew up, if it didn't have a fence or a tilled field it was fair-game for hunting. I think that custom originated from Scandivavian culture.


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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8216707
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I have coonhunted for over 50 years.back when I started like was mentioned you could ask anyone to hunt and gain permission.even had guys tell me don't ask me in the future just go but I always asked for permission every fall.now times have changed as alot of the property has been bought by people that don't allow hunting.my dogs have gotten onto property that iam not supposed to be on and have went in and caught them and got out of there.i don't like doing it but it's a fact of life anymore if you hunt with Hounds your going to end up on property your not supposed to be on.

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