No trash in the ditches in the 50s and 60's made me laugh. Seems I find all sorts of old dump sites in ditches and off old logging roads some older than the 50's but lots around that era. Many people have rose colored glasses when it comes to their past, forgetting the stuff they did and blaming the new guys.

Isn't that something!!!! Liars and cheaters and law breakers all think that way. Every excuse in the book not to be a rule follower! lol

Agree with this.

I occasionally have coon hunters trespass on me as a I have a couple of miles of good creeks. The dogs didn't drive themselves there and let themselves out of their kennels. Dogs also don't know what a fence or property boundary is. This is a people problem--the dogs are just ancillary.

It is an annoying part of the hunting culture and I'm glad it's not a bigger deal down here (at least in my part of the state).

My experience with hounds (cougars, bobcats and bears) has involved chases that often cover miles of ground, where the land owners, whether government or private, own 10's of thousands or 100's of thousands of acres.

How can anyone expect their dogs to not cross onto other people's property where the land ownership consist of small tracts? Not trying to justify trespassing; just a little bewildered.

This is a common complaint we get in Wisconsin every September. The Wisconsin Bear Hunters Association is well connected in the legislature and it's unlikely anything will change with hound hunting in Wisconsin anytime soon. There's already 2 months during the summer anybody and their brother, resident or not, can train hounds in Wisconsin without a license. Plus another month during the season whether you have a tag or not.

I've talked to some guys that run dogs, they did it right and talked to us before season to get permission to come retrieve dogs that end up on our land. We own 80 acres surrounded by a huge tract of county land, and we maintain a road system that they use to come get dogs. We did have to change locks on our gate a couple years back when we found out there were more keys out there than we knew about and we would routinely have 10-12 vehicles driving through our property every couple days July-September.

Those guys said some of these bears can go 5 miles or more when getting chased. So good luck finding a spot that's 5 miles from private and hoping the bears don't go any further.

Give me the bear or I will call the SO.

Spot on, these people know they will at some point be trespassing. They just don’t care, and use the illiterate dog excuse as justification.

You'd fit right in with some of the deer doggers down here in the South.

They couldn't care less if a landowner has planted food plots, maintained his roads in good condition, etc.

"Yall know them dogs can't read posted signs."

Well, here in Georgia...we had enough of that nonsense. Now the deer hound owner can be charged for allowing his hound to get on someone else's property.

That stopped most of that BS.

Waggler, I dont think anyone expects their dogs will never venture on private ground....but that doesnt mean its ok to shoot the bear. The hunters could have retrieved their hounds without killing the bear. Im a little bewildered you dont 6nderstand that..?

Not even close to being the same in every state. But Ill bet them trespassers knew the law in Wisconsin, which is the only law that matters up there.

Isn't it the truth? Our sportsman club, we put up wood duck houses on a WMA that has a creek running through it. Two years later, we checked them out to see if they were being used. They were all shot up. Sure gives hunters a bad name.

In this day and age of GPS tracking & shocking collars....there is NO excuse for this. It's the hunters that allowed the hounds to proceed.

I've watched deer houndsmen stop a hot race instantantly by beeping the collars. This was when the pack was less than 150yds behind the buck......but he crossed the last available logging road and was headed into private property.

All dogs in the pack stopped in the road and came towards the truck to load up. They knew after the beep that a shock was next.

in WI its 2 signs per 40 acres. You enter that and your trespassing. Criminally liable.
If its not marked its still not "open" land. You can be told to leave and not return, return and your criminally liable.

This is the biggest negative issue with hound hunting, the trespassing.

Which side of the 40 do you put your signs...? Doesn't seem like a well written law...2 signs arent much for covering 4 sides of a 40

SO CHOOT DEM !!!

It can't happen soon enough, IMO !!!

My main issue with trespassing is a safety issue. one of my wifes Aunt was around 60 and was watching her infant grand daughter while her daughter was at work. her daughter came to pick up her kid to find the baby asleep in the crib but grandma and her car was gone.. This is in a rule country area and many family members live in that section of ground.. a search was started. a day or two later Sandy (grandma) was found dead shot mutipal time in the head by a farmer. Some dope head that had been visiting a trashy family member down the road abducted her killed her and stole her car.

I had the son of a neighbor down the road thats about 30 and known dope head park at my gate cross my overgrown field about 400 yards to approch my neighbors house unseen. He couldn't get through the gate and fence the neighbor has at the road but he could climb mine and there is no fence between my newborn and I . He then started geting aggressive with my neighbors 16 year old son about driving to fast past his house with his kids playing.

OK his kids that are always out in the middle of the road and his dad (grandpa) is raising because he is such a useless dope head and now he cares about them. Get them out of the road for a start! Second the kid he was trespassing to mouth off to drives very reasonably especially for a young kid with flashy beefed up new Mustang ( kids dad is a big shot at ford) It has a great deep throaty sound and sounds fast just creeping down his drive way.

There have been a few incidents around the country in the last several years trespassers have shot land owners.

I see it as my yard is a small 96 acres. my wife and kids are all over it at all times. My boys are alway out running it, my daughter likes to take walks and workes the pup, my wife may be taking a walk or out feeding the bees. yes my yard is bigger than the fenced back yard of a subdivision but I expect the same level of respect of my rights and even more safety for my family since ther are less people around.


If the strung out 30 year old would have came across my kids when he was trespassing in such a bad mental state he thought what he was doing was not only ok but a good idea how would he have reacted when the boys told him to get.

It's where we live not some place we go from recreation and get away or to hunt. Anyone trespassing is already in the wrong and you never know their mental state or what they may do. Could be someone looking for a lost dog or it could be some tweaker that picked your place for his meth lab or pot patch.

so to me it's much more serious than just someone trespassed and shot a deer or two on my hunting.land or lease some drive away..

The hunters should have left their Guns/bows off the property. gone in with leashes got their dogs. If they had no permission to hunt there

The law provides for dogs not knowing property lines but hunting where you have no permission just because you treed an animal. Is Still poaching