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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8217255
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Hey, for all these folks that don’t mind trespassers or killing things on your land, y’all got any turkeys? Just send me your full name and address in a PM and I’ll take it from there. I’ll make copies of this and hand them back to you if caught.

Re: Trespassers [Re: AntiGov] #8217256
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Originally Posted by danny clifton
I dont trespass. Its your property. You have every right to deny access. I grew up in a world where nobody cared. I miss it.



Yep those days are gone forever....sad


Give me the time frame, I’m 60+ and don’t remember any such days around here. It’s why purchasing land was desirable. Wouldn’t be any need to own land if everybody was singing “This land is your land, this land is my land…”


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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8217261
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I didnt live on the east coast.


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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8217309
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Here in wild wild west ranchers were ranchers and farmers were farmers . Century farms
Elk and deer didn't have price tags

That all changed about 40 yrs ago , as far as I recall

The ranches changed hands, and the signs and gates went up ....big money trustafarians

I've talked to ranch hands who can't hunt the ranch they work on .


One ranch guy told me if he was pursuing a deer or elk and it crossed to another property he would just keep going . Like Danny said ... .nobody cared

I started hunting right when hunting and access started going down hill


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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8217315
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Hobbie ....Maryland has almost no public land .....perhaps the difference?


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Re: Trespassers [Re: Wanna Be] #8217323
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Hey, for all these folks that don’t mind trespassers or killing things on your land, y’all got any turkeys? Just send me your full name and address in a PM and I’ll take it from there. I’ll make copies of this and hand them back to you if caught.

No turkeys but you can come shoot some of these does and yearlings I have running around my place.

Re: Trespassers [Re: OKforester] #8217329
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Originally Posted by OKforester
Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Hey, for all these folks that don’t mind trespassers or killing things on your land, y’all got any turkeys? Just send me your full name and address in a PM and I’ll take it from there. I’ll make copies of this and hand them back to you if caught.

No turkeys but you can come shoot some of these does and yearlings I have running around my place.

I got enough here to shoot, lol. Deer is one thing I ain’t traveling for. Thanks for the offer though.

Last edited by Wanna Be; 09/16/24 08:18 PM.
Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8217331
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No grouse killers here , if I did you could kill them . I'm not a turkey hunter

I do have some cotton tails , and jack rabbits .....people don't eat them around these parts


Wife says come kill the deer ......eaten all her garden stuff and flowers


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Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8217333
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Here’s something I haven’t seen mentioned yet…injuries.
In the world we live in, everyone is sue happy. Heck, a motorist attempted to sue a plantation after hitting a deer on a major highway next to the plantation. They “assumed” the plantation was feeding deer and that’s why the deer crossed the road. So if someone will try that, what are they gonna do if they actually get hurt on the land?
We had a dove hunt this weekend and had to sign a waiver before hunting. Trespassers will say it wasn’t fenced/posted/etc and it’s all your fault they got hurt and was on your land.

Re: Trespassers [Re: Wanna Be] #8217340
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Here’s something I haven’t seen mentioned yet…injuries.
In the world we live in, everyone is sue happy. Heck, a motorist attempted to sue a plantation after hitting a deer on a major highway next to the plantation. They “assumed” the plantation was feeding deer and that’s why the deer crossed the road. So if someone will try that, what are they gonna do if they actually get hurt on the land?
We had a dove hunt this weekend and had to sign a waiver before hunting. Trespassers will say it wasn’t fenced/posted/etc and it’s all your fault they got hurt and was on your land.

I’m no lawyer and I believe states vary on their statues but I believe most states have laws that protect the landowner and there has to be some negligence involved. That’s not saying you may have to go to court to prove you weren’t negligent.

Re: Trespassers [Re: Diggerman] #8217424
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Hounds have just as much right in the woods as any game animal. Hunters do not. If you own land in the middle of public land, fence out the wildlife and you will not have a problem. The hunters should not have shot that bear without permission, agreed.


So dogs are listed as game animals in WI? Sweet! What are the listed dates on that season? Any caliber restrictions? Got any recipes?

Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8217442
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hobby I'm 44 back when I was 13 to about 17 I never heard a think about needing permission. maybe it was becuse I was a kid but no one Said a thing to us when we were out hunting. We were on foot and typically that limited our hunting range to about a 5 mile area max. We hunted everywhere.

seems like a lifetime ago. it started changing when the.tv and big antlers became.all the rage. People started offering to pay to hunt and access, sportsmanship,.and.being neighborly started to vanish.

Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8217480
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Forty years ago tree stands and deer hunting articles telling you to sit all day wasn't really a thing around here. None of the farmers cared if you hunted and they hunted with you. Deer ate corn and was the enemy. Those farmers that were old timers in the 80's have all but died off now. Then the ladder stand deer hunters started getting permission and the newer hunters started getting honked off if you walked up on them sitting still all day and they started complaining to the newer land owners and everything started shifting around here. That's what happened here. Waking up Saturday morning and seeing trucks full of orange driving around, everyone from all around meeting at the diner for lunch, deer check in stations... teaming up and hunting together is all a thing of the past. There aren't those deer drives like there used to be. Where everyone was some farmer that knew another farmer and you just drove around all day going from one square to the next and if the farmer wasn't hunting with you they knew the farmer that farmed it and probably ate early breakfast with him that morning in town. Around here dad grew up watching the WWII guys fox hunting in the 50's walking through all the squares. The fox hunters turned into coyote hunters when the fox numbers went down. Dogs got added into the group. The old timers used to talk about how they have walked through every square from Columbus Ohio to Richmond Indiana. It really started changing in the 90's. Its not like that anymore, but that's what happened here and the odd part that people don't seem to understand is that nobody cared back then. It wasn't that they were getting away with trespassing its that it was enjoyable and a sociable thing to do in the community and when you bumped into another hunter and nobody cared. It was more of a reunion. I kind of miss the old timers and what they argued about. I saw a guy shoot a deer and it go down once. We were standing there and it wasn't done yet so another guy dispatched it after asking if it was ok. Then we talked for awhile longer and then those two got into an argument about who was going to tag the ten point buck. The first guy said... I didn't kill that dang thing you did. lol. Come to think about it that was at the intersection of a fence that was on our property and there must have been 12 guys standing there talking and nobody had written permission and nobody really even thought to bring it up. Just a story about how it used to be here. I don't really care to argue with anyone about it. That's just the way it was.

Re: Trespassers [Re: chippewatrapper] #8217487
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Most of the individuals that believe it’s ok to be on others land- don’t own land. They don’t make habitat improvements, put in plots, pay taxes and work the land to benefit wildlife. Yet somehow- they feel entitled that you should be ok with this and understand their position. Spend your time on state land and not on my dime.

Re: Trespassers [Re: OhioBoy] #8217488
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Originally Posted by OhioBoy
Forty years ago tree stands and deer hunting articles telling you to sit all day wasn't really a thing around here. None of the farmers cared if you hunted and they hunted with you. Deer ate corn and was the enemy. Those farmers that were old timers in the 80's have all but died off now. Then the ladder stand deer hunters started getting permission and the newer hunters started getting honked off if you walked up on them sitting still all day and they started complaining to the newer land owners and everything started shifting around here. That's what happened here. Waking up Saturday morning and seeing trucks full of orange driving around, everyone from all around meeting at the diner for lunch, deer check in stations... teaming up and hunting together is all a thing of the past. There aren't those deer drives like there used to be. Where everyone was some farmer that knew another farmer and you just drove around all day going from one square to the next and if the farmer wasn't hunting with you they knew the farmer that farmed it and probably ate early breakfast with him that morning in town. Around here dad grew up watching the WWII guys fox hunting in the 50's walking through all the squares. The fox hunters turned into coyote hunters when the fox numbers went down. Dogs got added into the group. The old timers used to talk about how they have walked through every square from Columbus Ohio to Richmond Indiana. It really started changing in the 90's. Its not like that anymore, but that's what happened here and the odd part that people don't seem to understand is that nobody cared back then. It wasn't that they were getting away with trespassing its that it was enjoyable and a sociable thing to do in the community and when you bumped into another hunter and nobody cared. It was more of a reunion. I kind of miss the old timers and what they argued about. I saw a guy shoot a deer and it go down once. We were standing there and it wasn't done yet so another guy dispatched it after asking if it was ok. Then we talked for awhile longer and then those two got into an argument about who was going to tag the ten point buck. The first guy said... I didn't kill that dang thing you did. lol. Come to think about it that was at the intersection of a fence that was on our property and there must have been 12 guys standing there talking and nobody had written permission and nobody really even thought to bring it up. Just a story about how it used to be here. I don't really care to argue with anyone about it. That's just the way it was.

Somewhat similar here, now money talks.


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Re: Trespassers [Re: Eagleye] #8217491
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Originally Posted by Eagleye
Most of the individuals that believe it’s ok to be on others land- don’t own land. They don’t make habitat improvements, put in plots, pay taxes and work the land to benefit wildlife. Yet somehow- they feel entitled that you should be ok with this and understand their position. Spend your time on state land and not on my dime.



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Re: Trespassers [Re: AntiGov] #8217501
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Hobbie ....Maryland has almost no public land .....perhaps the difference?


10,700 acres in our county alone. Half of that is inside of 10 miles from where I’m at. It ain’t Montana but for a small state like us, it’s plenty to hunt for the number of hunters.


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Re: Trespassers [Re: Providence Farm] #8217502
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
hobby I'm 44 back when I was 13 to about 17 I never heard a think about needing permission. maybe it was becuse I was a kid but no one Said a thing to us when we were out hunting. We were on foot and typically that limited our hunting range to about a 5 mile area max. We hunted everywhere.

seems like a lifetime ago. it started changing when the.tv and big antlers became.all the rage. People started offering to pay to hunt and access, sportsmanship,.and.being neighborly started to vanish.


You’re right hunters started “buying” permission. Is that the landowners issue or the hunters’ issue?

Most of the farmers around here want deer killers not trophy hunters.


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Re: Trespassers [Re: keets] #8217508
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Originally Posted by keets
Originally Posted by Eagleye
Most of the individuals that believe it’s ok to be on others land- don’t own land. They don’t make habitat improvements, put in plots, pay taxes and work the land to benefit wildlife. Yet somehow- they feel entitled that you should be ok with this and understand their position. Spend your time on state land and not on my dime.



^^this

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Re: Trespassers [Re: keets] #8217518
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Originally Posted by keets
Originally Posted by Eagleye
Most of the individuals that believe it’s ok to be on others land- don’t own land. They don’t make habitat improvements, put in plots, pay taxes and work the land to benefit wildlife. Yet somehow- they feel entitled that you should be ok with this and understand their position. Spend your time on state land and not on my dime.



^^this

Nope, I dont want to be on your land, but if you own a fourty in the middle of the National forest, put in food plots to attract game, Dont be shocked that a hound runs through.

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