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Re: ATF approval [Re: Providence Farm] #8214059
09/11/24 11:11 PM
09/11/24 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
warrior. a suppressor is considered a firearm per NFA but it does not and can't meet that definition. it can't shot a thing alone. it's an accessory. should never been put on NFA.

that said I don't think it will ever go away.


Oh I know, a gun that can't go bang, insane. But even if it was it should still meet the bruen standard of "arms in common use".


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Re: ATF approval [Re: Wanna Be] #8214144
09/12/24 06:58 AM
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Just got my Banish 30 yesterday ATF had my paperwork
02/21/23 got approved 08/21/23
Silencer Central was good to work with on all the processes
BUTTTTTTT. When they informed me I was approved
and they were shipping the suppressor to my front door
they emailed me about 30 minutes later and said we are
sorry but we have no muzzle brakes and don't know when
we will get them
So now I have a expensive tube that I cannot use
To me it's like ordering a custom made rifle and waiting
then it's done and shipped you open the box up and it
came without a trigger!!
Just my 2 cents

Re: ATF approval [Re: Wanna Be] #8214160
09/12/24 07:20 AM
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I guess I’m not following…you got your suppressor but can’t use it because of a muzzle brake? I have to take the muzzle brakes off my rifles in order to use the suppressor.

Re: ATF approval [Re: Wanna Be] #8214169
09/12/24 07:32 AM
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The Banish 30 Gold is attached to the barrel with a muzzle brake

It's called a quick connect

Re: ATF approval [Re: Wanna Be] #8214268
09/12/24 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
I guess I’m not following…you got your suppressor but can’t use it because of a muzzle brake? I have to take the muzzle brakes off my rifles in order to use the suppressor.


ther are many different mount options.

thunder beast and suppressed arrmorment systems both have similar options both a break or flash hider mount that the suppressor goes over and the threads are on the back of the break and there I a tampered area behind them to lock up on. The taper keeps them from backing off In over 10 year and 5 different mounts I have never had my SA back off or get loose when shooting. they work great. but it gets expensive buying all the mounts at $125 e they may be more than that now.

Re: ATF approval [Re: Wanna Be] #8214287
09/12/24 11:07 AM
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All mine are direct thread. Haven’t had one come loose yet and I check them religiously. Preferred to opt out of the QD’s after hearing some horror stories. Didn’t realize you couldn’t use it only one way or another.

Re: ATF approval [Re: Steven 49er] #8214302
09/12/24 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
At one time I felt like some I would go without before I asked permission to own a suppressor or concealed permit. Than one day I realized I was only punishing myself.



I had the same thoughts years ago. My wife and I got our concealed carry 20+ years ago now. I had a lot of friends that let theirs expire after WV became a constitutional carry state, but we have kept ours since we travel through a lot of reciprocating states.

Just set up my review call with Silencer Central so moving right along. I have a few challenges with the fingerprint kit lol. I learned that I do not possess the ability to take my own fingerprints lol. I visited the local police station and the guy there that took my prints was awesome.

Re: ATF approval [Re: Wanna Be] #8214305
09/12/24 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
All mine are direct thread. Haven’t had one come loose yet and I check them religiously. Preferred to opt out of the QD’s after hearing some horror stories. Didn’t realize you couldn’t use it only one way or another.


DT is the route I am heading, for my hosts and cans.
Tried the modularity and ended up resigning to a can per host.

Re: ATF approval [Re: Wanna Be] #8214348
09/12/24 01:10 PM
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I bought the Gold because of a friend has one
Seems to be a good suppressor adds a little more
recoil control and a few more decmles on sound
On his 6.5 ARC recoil feels like a 22 mag rifle
He has had no issues at all
My point was they sell it as a kit

Re: ATF approval [Re: mad_mike] #8214387
09/12/24 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mad_mike
Originally Posted by Wanna Be
All mine are direct thread. Haven’t had one come loose yet and I check them religiously. Preferred to opt out of the QD’s after hearing some horror stories. Didn’t realize you couldn’t use it only one way or another.


DT is the route I am heading, for my hosts and cans.
Tried the modularity and ended up resigning to a can per host.



wanna be QD and a thread over break or flash hider are 2 completely different mounting options.

a thread over break is direct thread it just I'd on the back end of the break. the tapered lock up surface has more engagement area and keeps it from backing off. vs having a vertical shoulder.

the break acts as a sacrificial baffle and keeps some wear off you first baffle. look at one that has seen a lot of rounds and the ware on the break is very clear.

I have never been a fan of QD. it's pointless. they are more complicated more to fail and the can will be smoking hot when done shooting and your not taking it off fast with your oven mit on.

I do like thread over mounts, direct thread will work loose and need to be checked a lot at least mine do and so do my friends.

now if your shooting a tilting barrel pistol ( glock 1911 type) you need a Nelson device( booster) if you want the gun to cycle.

Re: ATF approval [Re: Wanna Be] #8214416
09/12/24 03:17 PM
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Lots of options out there. Over the years I have worked through a bunch of mounting systems and it didn’t take long to get past the idea of moving a can from host to host. Much simpler to go “here is my gun” and a can is mounted which with a known zero and…. Blah blah….
The only exception to that is a system that fits up to any Milspec A2 flash hider. That system is quick and as modular as I cold ever wish for.

As far as making sure the muffler is tight on the end of a tube, yeah, that falls under the common sense clause in life management.

Re: ATF approval [Re: Wanna Be] #8214420
09/12/24 03:22 PM
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I’m anal about things becoming loose and tight. Before every hunt and after I tighten and loosen my suppressors. I have yet to find it loose, but did find it really tight a couple of times.
Direct thread mishaps only have two possible options…barrel or suppressor. Too many parts leads to too many possibilities of failure.

Re: ATF approval [Re: Wanna Be] #8214428
09/12/24 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
I’m anal about things becoming loose and tight. Before every hunt and after I tighten and loosen my suppressors. I have yet to find it loose, but did find it really tight a couple of times.
Direct thread mishaps only have two possible options…barrel or suppressor. Too many parts leads to too many possibilities of failure.



I'm guessing you don't do much rapped fire pistol or rifle shooting. I don't myself but it's typically where I have seen friends send cans down range. they forget to check it once or twice between mags a day it works loose. seems worse on pistols with boosters. it's a lot of movement and banging.

Re: ATF approval [Re: Wanna Be] #8214533
09/12/24 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
I’m anal about things becoming loose and tight.


That’s not being anal. More like sensible. Trust, but verify…..

Re: ATF approval [Re: Wanna Be] #8214869
09/13/24 06:16 AM
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I’ve never seen a direct thread can work loose on a rifle.

Ever.

And that’s with a LOT of shooting.


In fact the opposite. I’ve seen them so carb’d on you needed to strap to break em loose!



Some of the new QD attachments are pretty neat, proven, and extremely reliable.

Same can’t be some for some older QD systems (20 years ago). I’d say most failures today are user fault.

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Re: ATF approval [Re: Wanna Be] #8214957
09/13/24 08:34 AM
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I make it a habit to break it loose and tighten it back every time I get it out of the truck. Have never had one come loose either.






Re: ATF approval [Re: Wanna Be] #8219140
09/19/24 01:53 PM
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Submitted 9/16 @10AM and was approved by 9/18 @ 4AM for electronic individual. Getting closer.

Re: ATF approval [Re: Wanna Be] #8237011
10/15/24 04:53 PM
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My suppressor arrived today. I was 1 day shy of 2 months through the whole process. I hurt myself slowing the fingerprint process as I got into some cleaning solvent that had my fingers peeling for a week and a half delaying me getting good fingerprints. Approval was quick like 2 days. Silencer central was slow getting it shipped to me which took about a week and a half but overall a painless process.

I bought the Banish 223 and was impressed with the couple full velocity loads I shot through it out behind the garage just to see how quiet it was. It surpassed my expectations.

Earlier in the thread I stated that a suppressor was probably a one and done for, but I was wrong. I can see another in the future.

Anyone ever suppressed a 6.5-300 Wby?

Re: ATF approval [Re: garymc] #8237018
10/15/24 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by garymc
My suppressor arrived today. I was 1 day shy of 2 months through the whole process. I hurt myself slowing the fingerprint process as I got into some cleaning solvent that had my fingers peeling for a week and a half delaying me getting good fingerprints. Approval was quick like 2 days. Silencer central was slow getting it shipped to me which took about a week and a half but overall a painless process.

I bought the Banish 223 and was impressed with the couple full velocity loads I shot through it out behind the garage just to see how quiet it was. It surpassed my expectations.

Earlier in the thread I stated that a suppressor was probably a one and done for, but I was wrong. I can see another in the future.

Anyone ever suppressed a 6.5-300 Wby?


The meat eater , back country or the gold should handle it

Re: ATF approval [Re: Wanna Be] #8237266
10/15/24 09:38 PM
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The title of this thread makes me physically sick!
"ATF approval"?!
I don't seek the approval of any unconstitutional, unelected bureaucracy.
God is the one who gave me my approval to have and bear arms.

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