Diabetes on Indian reservations is rampant. Their ancestors had a low carb diet. Whatever it is that makes people susceptible to type II wasn't a problem. Combine that with the very physical life they had and its not hard to see why. Everybody's ancestors were a lot more physical than people today.

Eggs, sausage or bacon and one slice of toast about every morning absolutely no sugar sweets the only sweets are sugar free and those are loaded with fats. Birdseye makes microwave steamed mixed vegetable's that are very good if you can find them.

The wife makes me sweet potatoes but she’s always pushing pancakes, corn bread, potatoes and cereals when she’s lazy. I try to eat less carbs but they are hard to eliminate from your diet if you like food. Stevia helps with my sweet tooth I use the liquid as much as possible for my coffee to avoid the sugar alcohols they will turn you inside out if you overdo them. Lean meats and vegetables in the evening and some sugar free carbs during the midday.

Poor info is available on a reasonable menu for as big of an issue it is and nobody agrees on what’s best for this person or that one. Many diets talk about food values but the formulas don’t make much sense overall. My wife and buddy are both type II like me they eat like regular folks snacks and all. I don’t do sweets, chips, ice cream or any sugar foods and their numbers are close to mine.

My wife is diabetic but still a bread, potato addict, it's hard to avoid completely, last night it was rice and beans so I had some, but try to keep the amounts low...I use the low net carb tortillas instead of bread for sandwiches, hard to break the sandwich habit, lol

I'm the same way with Mt. Dew, as several people mentioned, used to drink it by the two liter, but once off it, it just doesn't taste good. Dr Pepper is my weakness now. And bread. But I drink very little soda now.

I’d drink diet pop but the aspartame makes my joints ache mostly the knees and back it limits the range of movement to the point waking was painful stevia has no impact on my joints.

you are absolutely correct , it is also rampant in black populations in the US and even in Mexican and south American people .
It is also a huge issue in much of China and SE Asia

a good rule of thumb is if it got significantly more available with mechanized harvesting , it is too much for us.

watch one of those youtube videos of traditional rice harvest you see how much went into rice harvest , or think about wheat threshing
now the combine can harvest 20+ hours a day , they only need a person to sit in them , they can drive themselves and harvest rail cars an hour


the food pyramid turned what we should eat almost upside down , but it made the cheapest of the cereal grains the primary focus of what people should eat , followed by what were often high carb vegtables like peas , and beans , dry beans are really a carb not a veg.
but if you say it is the best , then you can subsidies the food programs with the cheapest option , and then we wonder why the groups who are fed this have very high rates of type 2


what makes you susceptible to type 2 is Insulin resistance in your muscle tissue , low insulin production from your pancreas, and too much glucose in your blood for what insulin you have and inactivity.

inactivity can make your muscles more insulin resistant
constantly having too much glucose / sugar/carbs in your blood wears on your pancreas ability to keep producing insulin
inactivity leads to higher glucose levels
obesity is those excess carbs storing as fat , which also makes your organs work harder

if you think of it like an engine so you took a perfectly adapted carburetor and power system to low fule consumption high work output , you flooded the carb all the time creating deposits in the cyclinders , that caused the valves to not seat and burn the seats which made it run very inefficiently, then you added some age to the system and you wonder why it fails prematurely.

your belly isn't a a fuel tank , it is a carberlator and power system that needs very good well regulated fuel and not too much of the wrong fuel


Veg , Meat , Fat should make up the majority of your diet

if it needs to be processed in a factory it should be avoided , if it is closer to simple syrup than water definitely avoid it

if you can hunt it , fish it , gather eggs , or grow it in a garden that is what you want to be eating

Just cutting out Cokes will seriously reduce that “sweet” craving. We have a lot of sweets on the table right now and I’d rather have meat, lol. I haven’t gone carb free, I still like my biscuits and gravy for breakfast or breakfast links dipped in mustard on the weekends, but I’m eating less per meal and just feel better.
I am addicted to these “teas” my wife makes me every morning. No sugars, but different flavors with some energy and other vitamins thrown in.

I just put a bone in chuck roast in the insta pot. Added some beef broth, dry onion soup, condensed mushroom soup, (small can) chopped up celery and a large can of rotel tomatoes with green chili

Now I’m hungry again, lol!

It's easy, but more expensive than a typical American diet, but worth it.

I have simply cut out all potatoes, rice, and wheat. No sodas and limited fruit. I will still use corn tortillas and indulge myself occasionally with a couple of sweets along with tea or coffee.

There is no need to become a religious fanatic about it, but if you just cut out 90% of the carbs I mentioned you'll be more than good.

Oops, I forgot to mention, I do still enjoy a couple of IPA's a week.

I have never had any blood sugar problems, but just on a whim I decided to try it last December. I lost 15 pounds, and the BAD acid reflux I had for years vanished. I haven't touched my Omeprazol since early January and I can now sleep in an position I like.

Im back to carnivore for a week or so. I usually lpse 2-3 lbs a day on it

I think our ancestors probably ate a lot like coyotes. Mostly carnivore in the winter and whatever they could find during the growing season. I am sure they managed to store some plant food for winter but I believe winter was mostly meat. It wasn't until they figured out farming that grain became a staple. And not the wild grain they harvested before farming but selective breeding to create the corn wheat barley and rye that became staples.

Wolfie , please, needs to pin the thread on all the great info and pics of recipes that Patrice and several others of us contributed to several years ago. In the health forum, I suppose.

It was an extensive thread in which she explained in detail how low-carb regulates BP, insulin, and shedding weight. If I can find it, I will post the link .

I would say that sodas are the first to go , for fast results . It's been decades since I've had a soda of any kind, they are so sickly sweet for those who aren't used to all that high fructose corn syrup. That stuff is poison to the body.

I do fine with water, morning coffee, and sometimes fruit juice, NO added sugar or that syrup. Making your own cool drink from water, stevia, and dash of lemon juice is refreshing too. Add a wee dash of salt , and you also have a good homemade electrolyte drink .

Of course, regular exercise is good for life .

On the plan that Patrice advocated, a very good book full of info medically that explains everything, it says, that once the goal is reached for health , and weight loss, enjoying some carb meals once in a while is ok. As long as the maintenance, low-carb stays a lifestyle in general. So it isn't like one can never enjoy some carb pasta, rice, etc. , if desired.

https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6964638/1

I found the link.

The Almighty Low Carb Food thread...

WOLFIE ! You're the archive master, last time I heard....will you please PIN this whole thread in the health forum ???

There is so much great info in this , and more often than not, another subject is started along these lines in questions. All the recipes with photos from Patrice alone are worth it.

Thank you !

I was thinking about Patrice's Low-Carb thread earlier while posting on this one Sharon. It's got a lot of great info and recipes on it.

Thanks for posting Sharon!! I'd seen the thread in the past but forgot about it. Recently went back to low carb, so all these ideas will help.

I got a question for you... I really want to make this recipe you shared... as I understand it you brown the beef and veggies, put them in a casserole dish. then mix the heavy cream, cheddar cheese, eggs and seasonings and pour it over the meat before baking...

But where does the cream cheese come in??

Also, roughly how many eggs?

https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthr...-carb-foods-and-meals-thread#Post5909915

Thanks!!

Angela, I think you would love this one , too.

I admit I improvised on a few of the ingredients...but you'll see that this recipe allows for options !

I added cream cheese with the heavy cream, a little extra, just to see how it blended with everything. It did fine, was a little more moist , which is what I wanted. You can leave that out or add some , I didn't measure...maybe around 1/2 to 3/4 cup of cream cheese ? It isn't in the main recipe so that option is your call.

This youtube sums it up well.



[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/jRpdDcHnplg?si=tmfKQw3OrKl81Tb3[/video]

I think I need to buy half or a whole cow. but I need another freezer and place to put the freezer.0 I could loose a few lb but honestly when I was in shape and running 2n2 miles once a week and lifting 4 to 6 days a week I was the same weight I am now it was just all solid muscle and nothing extra around the middle. I'm in ok shape could be much better but my concern is for my wife and I'm going to hit it hard to help motivate her.


Going to my wife's wellness check up really opened my eyes to her health issues. yes I knew she could loose some weight but didn't care until I thought it was harming her health. her knee back ect I was picking up on small issues but then BP issues and it's only going to get worse and harder the older we get. So now it's got to be a priority. She know what she needs to do joined the little local gym a few months back. She needs help with motivation and I could be that but I'm not home much. Got to work on that as well.

well I think I'm in OK shape until I'm dragging a deer out or out cutting wood then my delusion is shattered.

PF I will pray for you dear wife. You sound like a good man and husband. good luck on y'all's journey to figuring out what will work for you!

Thank you Ma'am. I don't think I can make a recipe without modifying somewhat, lol. Like, I'd probably cut back on the bacon a bit. I like bacon, but not THAT much LOL.

I like this recipe as I think Pete would also like it. Sucks having to make a low carb meal plus a carbier one for him every night.