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Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? #8239320
10/18/24 11:14 AM
10/18/24 11:14 AM
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NorthwesternYote Offline OP
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I won a lottery to trap some public land (all public land trapping, at least in my half of the state, seems to be by lottery). This being my first season trapping, do you have any advice specific to trapping on public land? What can I expect to be different from trapping, for example, on some rancher's land?

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Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8239331
10/18/24 11:37 AM
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Follow the rules. What part of illinois? All the places have sight specific rules. It is really bad to catch a dog- even if the dog owner is not follow the sight specific rules.


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Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: Larry Baer] #8239346
10/18/24 12:24 PM
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NorthwesternYote Offline OP
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Originally Posted by Larry Baer
What part of illinois?

North.

It's certainly not my goal to catch a dog, but they smell the same things coyotes do. I'd fear catching a rancher's dog, too, if I were trapping a ranch.

Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8239909
10/19/24 05:48 AM
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Cheap traps! I have had traps messed with before trapping public land.

Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8240001
10/19/24 08:52 AM
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Talk to the rancher and show them how your traps work.
Should you catch their dog they would know how to release it.


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Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: son-of-grizz] #8240566
10/19/24 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by son-of-grizz
Cheap traps! I have had traps messed with before trapping public land.

Does this usually happen after the catch or does it ever happen before the catch? I'm hoping a casual observer won't notice my traps if I've hidden them well enough, but a dancing coyote in a trap is tough to ignore.

Have you ever caught somebody in the act of messing with your traps and, if so, what do you do? In IL it's against the law for them to do so, for sure.

Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8240647
10/19/24 10:30 PM
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Just because it's against the law doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Trapped on a farm years back and found my empty trap in a catch circle. Could clearly tell it was a red fox with hair in the trap and a pool of blood along side. Latter I seen the farmer combining beans so stopped by to talk to him about it. Crawled up onto the combine and while talking to him, noticed a pool of blood on the floor by his feet. When I asked him about it he said it was hydrolic fluid. Pulled all my traps and never went back.


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Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: 20scout] #8240732
10/20/24 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 20scout
Just because it's against the law doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Trapped on a farm years back and found my empty trap in a catch circle. Could clearly tell it was a red fox with hair in the trap and a pool of blood along side. Latter I seen the farmer combining beans so stopped by to talk to him about it. Crawled up onto the combine and while talking to him, noticed a pool of blood on the floor by his feet. When I asked him about it he said it was hydrolic fluid. Pulled all my traps and never went back.

That's interesting. Presumably you were trapping there with the farmer's permission and blessing, so why do you suppose he did that? Did he just want the fox for himself?

Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8240801
10/20/24 07:24 AM
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Could use drags so they can get out of site. I don’t know if you have to in your area, but you do put “Active Trapline” signs/tape, but put it waaaaay before you’re first set. Some will search hard after they see the sign, but get tired of finding nothing after a while…lol


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Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8240853
10/20/24 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by 20scout
Just because it's against the law doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Trapped on a farm years back and found my empty trap in a catch circle. Could clearly tell it was a red fox with hair in the trap and a pool of blood along side. Latter I seen the farmer combining beans so stopped by to talk to him about it. Crawled up onto the combine and while talking to him, noticed a pool of blood on the floor by his feet. When I asked him about it he said it was hydrolic fluid. Pulled all my traps and never went back.

That's interesting. Presumably you were trapping there with the farmer's permission and blessing, so why do you suppose he did that? Did he just want the fox for himself?

Had his blessings but guess he was just another dirtbag. Had he asked I would have gave him a fox for letting me trap on his land. Fox at the time where about $75 or more and gas was well under a buck/gallon.

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Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8241269
10/20/24 07:49 PM
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It happened before the catch. Deer hunters shooting dps get expensive quick. Not allowed to dry land trap on public land where I trap. Has to be dps or in the water.

Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8241281
10/20/24 08:08 PM
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If you find yourself on public, check as early as possible. Like before daylight. It'll cut down on the amount of theft of catches but not eliminate it. Best bet when trapping in general is to expect some losses and dont think about them much or it'll just take your mind off the end game

Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: son-of-grizz] #8241637
10/21/24 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by son-of-grizz
It happened before the catch. Deer hunters shooting dps get expensive quick. Not allowed to dry land trap on public land where I trap. Has to be dps or in the water.

Yeah, it looks like I won't be able to use coil spring traps on land, so that probably rules out coyotes. (Cage traps are okay, but I'm not going to try targeting coyotes with cage traps.) I guess I need to get some dps before the season starts.

Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8241783
10/21/24 05:48 PM
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Some rules state you have to use the Egg trap so make sure read the rules. You can use cages for coyotes and cats if you have a cat tag you can keep one. Cages work well for racoons. I would check very early and leave very early. Use a disguise - meaning look like you're out for a hike if you have to be there during the day. Don't draw attention. The more patternable you are the more people will want to know what you are doing. I know a guy who carries a bucket. The top 1'' of the bucket is a lid that has a bunch of garbage glued to it so it looks like he's picking up trash. He carries his catch under the lid. I would not wear camo or anything that looks like you might be a hunter. The more you look like a city person who is out to experience nature the better off you are.

I'm gathering that you may not be from Illinois? Maybe a western state? We don't have many ranches here and no ranch is on public ground. There is no open range or rented range as far as I know in Illinois so figure you are going to be right in people's back yards and they will all be watching you catch their furry babies. I would stick to cages and keep very quiet. We only have one public place here and it is covered in dogs and people walking them. Figure every kind of dog will be there from time to time and kids and people riding horses and bow hunters, squirrel hunters, rabbit hunters. Are you getting the picture? You'll do better on private ground if you can get permission.

There are some guys on here in Northern IL who might be a help finding places? Not sure if you are around Rockford but on of my friends died who trapped close to there and he had a lot of the land sewed up. - just saying


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Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: Larry Baer] #8241816
10/21/24 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Baer
Some rules state you have to use the Egg trap so make sure read the rules. You can use cages for coyotes and cats if you have a cat tag you can keep one. Cages work well for racoons. I would check very early and leave very early. Use a disguise - meaning look like you're out for a hike if you have to be there during the day. Don't draw attention. The more patternable you are the more people will want to know what you are doing. I know a guy who carries a bucket. The top 1'' of the bucket is a lid that has a bunch of garbage glued to it so it looks like he's picking up trash. He carries his catch under the lid. I would not wear camo or anything that looks like you might be a hunter. The more you look like a city person who is out to experience nature the better off you are.

I'm gathering that you may not be from Illinois? Maybe a western state? We don't have many ranches here and no ranch is on public ground. There is no open range or rented range as far as I know in Illinois so figure you are going to be right in people's back yards and they will all be watching you catch their furry babies. I would stick to cages and keep very quiet. We only have one public place here and it is covered in dogs and people walking them. Figure every kind of dog will be there from time to time and kids and people riding horses and bow hunters, squirrel hunters, rabbit hunters. Are you getting the picture? You'll do better on private ground if you can get permission.

There are some guys on here in Northern IL who might be a help finding places? Not sure if you are around Rockford but on of my friends died who trapped close to there and he had a lot of the land sewed up. - just saying

I grew up in Texas, but went to school in IL (name is a clue), worked for a time in Iowa, and live in IL now (Kane county). I don't have any connections for private land, but there are several smaller farms even in this part of the state and I guess I just need to go knocking on doors. This will be my first season so I'm still trying to figure everything out (watching lots of videos, reading, and talking to people) and gradually assembling my gear. I thought starting out on public land might be a good way to learn before I start approaching farmers, but the more I learn, the more I'm doubting that.

Reading the regulations for this site, egg traps, dog proofs, and cage traps are all allowed for land sets, but coil springs are only allowed in water (and only a small jaw spread). Blaze orange is mandatory so I can't really dress to blend in, but it's actually pretty remote so I don't think it will be too crowded. It would be nice to find a place I can use my new MB 550s.

Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8241978
10/21/24 10:40 PM
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Not sure about the law in IL but here is WA is a Misdemeanor to mess with someone's traps, but that doesn't stop the bunny snugglers, even had videos of someone messing with traps and they got off with less than a slap on the wrist, if you have trail cameras set them high up and hope for the best.

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Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8242004
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Walk awhile about miles before I putting trap down.

Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8242089
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Part of bring a good trapper is how much effort u will.put into getting permission on good property

Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: Yes sir] #8242110
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Part of bring a good trapper is how much effort u will.put into getting permission on good property


The OP asked about trapping on public land IMO permission not needed for trapping on public lands as the trapper is in essence a land owner of said PUBLIC land


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Re: Any advice for trapping public land (in IL)? [Re: Jingles] #8242167
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Originally Posted by Jingles
Originally Posted by Yes sir
Part of bring a good trapper is how much effort u will.put into getting permission on good property


The OP asked about trapping on public land IMO permission not needed for trapping on public lands as the trapper is in essence a land owner of said PUBLIC land

Yes but one of his last post was about trying to get some private land

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