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To kill or not to kill? #8244654
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A smart doe. I have an older doe that makes a wide loop around my stand. She knows not to come in closer. Can I shoot her. Yes, she does present opportunities. But she is a good momma producing every year.
Hate to kill her and take out good breeding stock.
There are many others to take. Right now I'm hunting bucks, rut is coming. Already killed two nice bucks. Thinking with all the does I have in the area. Got to lure in another big boy soon.
So, what are your thoughts? Kill or not to kill her.

Sarge


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Re: To kill or not to kill? [Re: SGT. C] #8244656
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You answered your own question when you wrote, "Hate to kill her and take out good breeding stock."


Eh...wot?

Re: To kill or not to kill? [Re: SGT. C] #8244664
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Now I know it makes little to no difference for the ones that can’t help making Captain Obvious statements on here but this is my preferred approach to taking does.

I don’t shoot a doe if a yearling is present if a lone doe comes by that’s one I’ll consider she could be a dry doe or lost a fawn somehow I just don’t need a deer that bad. I don’t need to shoot the first doe that comes along that I know is producing future deer plus I get to hunt longer I’m in no hurry.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Old smart does can make your life miseable.


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Re: To kill or not to kill? [Re: SGT. C] #8244666
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Shoot what makes you happy.


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Re: To kill or not to kill? [Re: SGT. C] #8244669
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Reminds of a meme of a huge overweight buck and it reads, “ no way I’m shooting that thing and dragging it out!” That’s where I’m at now. wink


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Yep, could have shot her last night. But she has two deer with her. But to be honest, didn't have the energy or desire to load her up. Now, a big buck seems to always get the adrenaline pumping. Already killed two nice bucks. So I can be patient that my season last until January 1st.


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Re: To kill or not to kill? [Re: SGT. C] #8244678
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Law Dog, I learned my lesson about 4 years ago on a 185 pound 8 point. I hunt alone and somehow managed to load him by myself and at my age. I paid the price for about two weeks with my back.
So, I researched and found a solution. I use a hand crank/platform made by I believe is Viking lift. Just three pieces that go together in two minutes in my receiver and take about apart in less then half. Worth every penny. Not cheap, but a chiropractor isn't either.


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Re: To kill or not to kill? [Re: SGT. C] #8244679
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Had a doe go under my stand years back in a little draw I could have easily spit on her she was that close to my ladder, behind her in tow was 3 button bucks my first thought was buck factory! She’s the safest deer from me ever.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Originally Posted by SGT. C
Law Dog, I learned my lesson about 4 years ago on a 185 pound 8 point. I hunt alone and somehow managed to load him by myself and at my age. I paid the price for about two weeks with my back.
So, I researched and found a solution. I use a hand crank/platform made by I believe is Viking lift. Just three pieces that go together in two minutes in my receiver and take about apart in less then half. Worth every penny. Not cheap, but a chiropractor isn't either.



Been there using ratchet straps to work a buck into a small SUV it’s like loading a sack of jello if you can’t tie off to it. LOL That elk this year and the way the rental schedule worked was 2 long days and nights that really set me back for a few weeks my butt was dragging.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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My 2 cents and that's all it's worth, I'd give her a pass

Re: To kill or not to kill? [Re: SGT. C] #8244694
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Coyotes have to eat too.


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Re: To kill or not to kill? [Re: SGT. C] #8244701
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i passed a big doe every year that pumped out twins every year,for about 3-4 years,THEN she became my nemisis,she would bust me and let every other deer know,those old does are SMART,if she wouldve gave me a shot the last couple years i wouldve taken it,she ended up getting hit on the road nearby.good riddance.they can become a problem


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Re: To kill or not to kill? [Re: SGT. C] #8244707
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Shoot and eat. Plenty of does you say


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Re: To kill or not to kill? [Re: SGT. C] #8244709
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LOL, a whopper buck is smart and a challenge and is highly thought of.... an old smart doe is a PITA.... I get it, y'all want stupid deer.... grin

Re: To kill or not to kill? [Re: SGT. C] #8244711
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I got a doe that has figured out how to keep 2 fawns alive every year for the last three years. I won't shoot her and I pray the hunt clubs won't either. They run dogs so you just never know, even on your own property. Got 2 giant bucks that I don't know how they keep from getting killed every year. The hunt clubs run dogs thru his home range at least 20 times a year. Deer are smart. They somehow figure out how to survive.

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I had an old doe that would hunt me down know matter where I went on the farm. When she found me she would let everyone know. I think she listened for the back door to close. lol Anyway, I was tickled when I out smarted her.

Re: To kill or not to kill? [Re: Gary Benson] #8244717
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Coyotes have to eat too.

Yep, your right they do. Fortunate the last two seasons. Logging operations have moved them to other grounds. But the deer have flourished.
I figure a doe that can stay alive for 3 or 4 years knows a thing or two how avoid being eaten by yotes.


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Originally Posted by HILLTOP TRAPPER
i passed a big doe every year that pumped out twins every year,for about 3-4 years,THEN she became my nemisis,she would bust me and let every other deer know,those old does are SMART,if she wouldve gave me a shot the last couple years i wouldve taken it,she ended up getting hit on the road nearby.good riddance.they can become a problem


Yep, last night she circled around and came from the rear. For 20 minutes she kept blowing. Couldn't see me. But she smelled me or the thermacell( yes, they do put out a scent)


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Originally Posted by SGT. C
Originally Posted by HILLTOP TRAPPER
i passed a big doe every year that pumped out twins every year,for about 3-4 years,THEN she became my nemisis,she would bust me and let every other deer know,those old does are SMART,if she wouldve gave me a shot the last couple years i wouldve taken it,she ended up getting hit on the road nearby.good riddance.they can become a problem


Yep, last night she circled around and came from the rear. For 20 minutes she kept blowing. Couldn't see me. But she smelled me or the thermacell( yes, they do put out a scent)

im totally against shooting does with fawns(thats just me)but that old girl wouldve got it just because of the problems she was causing.your call for sure,just remember shes only gonna get smarter


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