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Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: Cragar] #8253615
11/04/24 05:13 PM
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That's NYSDEC's new agenda under Horsed Faced Hochul, Guess they couldn't find a wildlife rehabber.


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Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8253647
11/04/24 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Sharon
Well the guy who kept "PEANUT" is a human. A man.

I am just intelligent enough to recognize a squirrel from a dog.

Whatever term you like best , by all means use. Owner, kept, kidnapped, whatever.

He kept it in his house, just as one would a cat or dog. I know what a cat is , too.

I know you do.

My reply wasn't about your knowledge...it was about the fact that wildlife are not pets and are not owned.



Yet hunt clubs can raise pheasants to turn loose for their club members to shoot.
What about deer farms?
People who raise buffalo ?"
Seems as though as long as the government gets a cut, it's OK?
What about wild game farms ?
You go to most deer farms and the deer are like pets , they have no fear of humans .
TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT OVER REACH!


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: Cragar] #8253651
11/04/24 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine

Yet hunt clubs can raise pheasants to turn loose for their club members to shoot.
What about deer farms?
People who raise buffalo ?"
Seems as though as long as the government gets a cut, it's OK?
What about wild game farms ?
You go to most deer farms and the deer are like pets , they have no fear of humans .
TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT OVER REACH!


Who is the government?


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Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: warrior] #8253663
11/04/24 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine

Yet hunt clubs can raise pheasants to turn loose for their club members to shoot.
What about deer farms?
People who raise buffalo ?"
Seems as though as long as the government gets a cut, it's OK?
What about wild game farms ?
You go to most deer farms and the deer are like pets , they have no fear of humans .
TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT OVER REACH!


Who is the government?


The permanent bureaucracy that answers to no one, and cannot be fired.

Last edited by Squash; 11/04/24 06:13 PM.
Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: warrior] #8253667
11/04/24 06:17 PM
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Name one state that doesn't appoint their state head of wildlife.
That's the government.


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Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: Cragar] #8253673
11/04/24 06:35 PM
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Back when I was a kid, we had pet squirrels , ground hogs, coon, pigeons , skunks, rabbits, crow, and just about everything that we caught as kids.
Used to be able to keep fox in cages for their urine, during trapping season.
Same as we could trap problem animals for people in exchange for trapping rights.
Some do-gooders got that changed so they could take over trapping nuisance animals , for big money.
Not a bad idea, with the current prices of fur. But it's just more government control, as now you have to take another test, then buy a special license to trap peoples problem animals.
You can do it for free , but don't you dare ask for trapping permission in return.
Same with an early muzzle loader season in Ohio , two days in October , on a weekend .
Bow hunters complained that the hunters were messing up their hunts for big bucks.
Strange it was for doe only.
Trouble is people can't just leave things alone, they have to have their way .
Look at what the hound hunters did in Michigan, stopping bobcat trapping , with the help of HSUS.
Too many people think they're more important than the other millions of people.
One woman , that's right, one woman got prayer taken out of schools .
Much like what's going on today , with gay rights.
All it takes is someone in government to side with them, and then money buys the votes to get it passed.


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Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: Squash] #8253693
11/04/24 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Squash
This thread is proof, that law enforcement will do what ever their political masters tell them. We will all end up like peanut the squirrel if gun confiscating politicians get their way.

BINGO!


Act like a blank, get treated like a blank. Insert your own blank!
Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: Yukon John] #8253705
11/04/24 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Yukon John
Originally Posted by Squash
This thread is proof, that law enforcement will do what ever their political masters tell them. We will all end up like peanut the squirrel if gun confiscating politicians get their way.

BINGO!

For the common good, of course.


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Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: Cragar] #8253732
11/04/24 07:17 PM
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The thing that truly disgusts me isn't the killing of a squirrel and raccoon. Nor the obvious jack booted thuggery of law enforcement.
The absolute disgusting part is the hue and cry over a couple animals while our country is on a greased track to perdition.

IT'S A FRIGGEN SQUIRREL AND A COON. WHO CARES!

The world looks the other way when 350,000 children go missing, when druggies line the streets, perverts in our schools, political prosecution is the purpose of the courts.

Yet let one cute animal die and everyone loses their mind.

And the nitwits on this site of all sites should know better. Go ahead and join the antis, sell your traps and guns for scrap. Because animals have "rights" don't you know.

All talk tough guys but fold at the drop of a squirrel.


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Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: Cragar] #8253763
11/04/24 07:33 PM
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The demonrats tried to kill Trump but found they c couldn't so they take out peanut.

Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: warrior] #8253934
11/04/24 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior
The thing that truly disgusts me isn't the killing of a squirrel and raccoon. Nor the obvious jack booted thuggery of law enforcement.
The absolute disgusting part is the hue and cry over a couple animals while our country is on a greased track to perdition.

IT'S A FRIGGEN SQUIRREL AND A COON. WHO CARES!

The world looks the other way when 350,000 children go missing, when druggies line the streets, perverts in our schools, political prosecution is the purpose of the courts.

Yet let one cute animal die and everyone loses their mind.

And the nitwits on this site of all sites should know better. Go ahead and join the antis, sell your traps and guns for scrap. Because animals have "rights" don't you know.

All talk tough guys but fold at the drop of a squirrel.


You're totally missing the point!
It's too much government, has been for the last 60 or so years.
There's a law against everything any more.
The government is dead set to outlaw everything they can.

You're right it's just a couple animals, but that's not what this is about!
In Ohio we have what they call the Goddard law, it's a felony to harm a companion animal.
Doesn't matter if it's feral and a menace , it's still a companion animal.
TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT OVER REACH!

Last edited by Ohio Wolverine; 11/04/24 08:57 PM.

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Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8253953
11/04/24 09:02 PM
11/04/24 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Originally Posted by warrior
The thing that truly disgusts me isn't the killing of a squirrel and raccoon. Nor the obvious jack booted thuggery of law enforcement.
The absolute disgusting part is the hue and cry over a couple animals while our country is on a greased track to perdition.

IT'S A FRIGGEN SQUIRREL AND A COON. WHO CARES!

The world looks the other way when 350,000 children go missing, when druggies line the streets, perverts in our schools, political prosecution is the purpose of the courts.

Yet let one cute animal die and everyone loses their mind.

And the nitwits on this site of all sites should know better. Go ahead and join the antis, sell your traps and guns for scrap. Because animals have "rights" don't you know.

All talk tough guys but fold at the drop of a squirrel.


You're totally missing the point!
It's too much government, has been for the last 60 or so years.
There's a law against everything any more.
The government is dead set to outlaw everything they can.

You're right it's just a couple animals, but that's not what this is about!
In Ohio we have what they call the Goddard law, it's a felony to harm a companion animal.
Doesn't matter if it's feral and a menace , it's still a companion animal.
TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT OVER REACH!


Agreed, but our wildlife laws that this whole stink is based upon aren't that. They've been the foundation of American conservation since the first steps were taken to protect wildlife.

As I said in an earlier post folks will hang a poacher but defend this guy.


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Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: warrior] #8253972
11/04/24 09:17 PM
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Sorry but I disagree, wildlife laws were to protect wild animals, set limits on how many can be taken.
Stop poaching, and the like. Set seasons that allowed animals to have their young unmolested , and a chance to reproduce.
Now the laws say you can't help wildlife babies that you know are abandoned ?
Granted, most wild animals don't make good pets , but it all depends on how they're raised.
All I'm saying is that the laws set to stop poaching and over harvest were one thing, but the laws that are against helping wild animals have a chance are wrong.
So this case is the animals became pets, and couldn't be released into the wild, with a good chance of surviving.
It's just the way government that has a problem with total control is let go on anything and every thing.
Had it been a race issue, the government would back off.
I find it strange the government picks and choses what they want to enforce and not enforce.


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Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8254002
11/04/24 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Sorry but I disagree, wildlife laws were to protect wild animals, set limits on how many can be taken.
Stop poaching, and the like. Set seasons that allowed animals to have their young unmolested , and a chance to reproduce.
Now the laws say you can't help wildlife babies that you know are abandoned ?
Granted, most wild animals don't make good pets , but it all depends on how they're raised.
All I'm saying is that the laws set to stop poaching and over harvest were one thing, but the laws that are against helping wild animals have a chance are wrong.
So this case is the animals became pets, and couldn't be released into the wild, with a good chance of surviving.
It's just the way government that has a problem with total control is let go on anything and every thing.
Had it been a race issue, the government would back off.
I find it strange the government picks and choses what they want to enforce and not enforce.


Taking wildlife from the wild without proper licensure no matter how well intentioned is poaching. As for rescue and rehab every state has a legal mechanism for that to occur. And it, for the most part, isn't that onerous or difficult to comply with.

And quite frankly I've heard it from more than one state wildlife professional that the whole rehab thing is more political appeasement than sound biology.


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Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: Cragar] #8254006
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BTW, I'm getting pretty regular calls for distemper coons now and every one has been a referral from my rehabber friends who have sense enough to refuse to intervene.

That's why I get along with them like I do, they are pragmatic realists.


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Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: Cragar] #8254007
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If u break the law just accept the consequences.

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I didn't read the 6 pages about the squirrel

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Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: Cragar] #8254016
11/04/24 09:52 PM
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What is the difference in taming a wild squirrel to entertain ones self and catching wild bees and hiving them and then robbing them of their honey ?

Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: Foxpaw] #8254022
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
What is the difference in taming a wild squirrel to entertain ones self and catching wild bees and hiving them and then robbing them of their honey ?


Bees aren't native. I can catch all the pigeons my heart desires as well.

Besides, honey bees have been part of common law since the Roman era. Little known factoid, many states still recognize the ancient common law of a claimed swarm where any person upon seeing a passing swarm may claim that swarm and follow it, as long as it remains in sight, and retrieve from where ever it may go and settle.


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Don't pigeons carry disease and hauling hives all over the country causes problems that wild bees don't have ?

Re: Peanut the squirrel [Re: Cragar] #8254032
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Wouldnt it have been a whole lot less controversial for them to go in and see what was going on with the squirrel (Im sure they saw the videos) and advise the couple on how to get a license to keep the critters? On top of that Im sure they would have been happy to pay a fine for their "crime".



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