Re: Stock Market up 1300 points
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oil is the #1 cause of inflation! oil is dropping, and it's predicted to go a lot lower ! unless wars keep growing out, inflation will flatting out
50 + years of trapping & some fur buying and i still know nothing.
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Re: Stock Market up 1300 points
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Warren Buffet is not putting his cash in a vault. Investing is a long term game. Over years. There was an article about his cash early this summer. There are many areas of safety. When the market is fearless you should be fearful When the market is fearful be greedy!!!!! Patience is the key!!!
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Re: Stock Market up 1300 points
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11/13/24 05:06 PM
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oil is the #1 cause of inflation! oil is dropping, and it's predicted to go a lot lower ! unless wars keep growing out, inflation will flatting out You believe that? Ken, I've been doing some deep thinking what will happen to markets if/when they lower rates a couple points. Any thoughts? I see a melt up of epic proportions. I'm thinking the average house price will go to unthinkable levels.
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Stock Market up 1300 points
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Oil prices are not exceedingly high at the present time. If Saudia Arabia decides to battle for market share prices could go much lower. 40 dollar bbl could be on the horizon?
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Stock Market up 1300 points
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What is the consensus for a break even price for US shale production?
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Re: Stock Market up 1300 points
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oil is the #1 cause of inflation! oil is dropping, and it's predicted to go a lot lower ! unless wars keep growing out, inflation will flatting out You believe that? Ken, I've been doing some deep thinking what will happen to markets if/when they lower rates a couple points. Any thoughts? I see a melt up of epic proportions. I'm thinking the average house price will go to unthinkable levels. TRUMP say drill baby drill for one .
50 + years of trapping & some fur buying and i still know nothing.
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Re: Stock Market up 1300 points
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Trump can say whatever he wants. There is an economic reality when it comes to producing oil. Or anything for that matter, it can't be below production costs
But I digress, my question was do you believe the price of oil meaningful adds to inflation?
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Stock Market up 1300 points
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11/13/24 07:04 PM
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Trump can say whatever he wants. There is an economic reality when it comes to producing oil. Or anything for that matter, it can't be below production costs
But I digress, my question was do you believe the price of oil meaningful adds to inflation? Ooh! Sacrilege! Everybody out here went in the oil business during Obama. Ooh! more Sacrilege ! They all lost their Jobs during Obama too. Price of Oil don't care what dingbat is President!
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Stock Market up 1300 points
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11/13/24 08:00 PM
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Just reflecting back on the 70's, we had Vietnam that got gov spending out of control. The Arabs didn't like our relationship with Israel and jacked up the price of oil, the gov was more worried about stimulating the economy and came out with a big investment credit on machinery, we were buying stuff we didn't even need just to get it directly off the income tax owed. Carter slapped the markets with an embargo. Inflation got to 14 I think. The Feds decided they had to check inflation. The Federal Land Bank (farmer owned not the Feds) interest hit 21% and our local bank hit 23%. Those loans I got at 7% to buy machinery to get I think the 10% investment credit, I had to roll over to 23%. Our grain market was still crashed from Carter days, Reagan came out with CRP too little to late and Willie Nelson couldn't save the lost farmers with all his efforts, but he gave it a shot. Inflation mixed with greed is like piranha ! Lots of things from politics, bad weather, shortages of oil and grain and pure greed, and bad timing by the Feds can all cause inflation. Conclusion= Feds are a necessary evil owned by who knows who?
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Re: Stock Market up 1300 points
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11/13/24 09:12 PM
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Why is the FED necessary?
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Stock Market up 1300 points
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Why is the FED necessary?
Because they say so! I think Kennedy maybe was the last to argue they weren't necessary.
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