I'd say that is the exception to a high fence area (that large), but still the game there is not free range.

Nephew you going to get shot!!! Better stay out of some ones pumpkin patch ! Great pumpkin will Charlie Brown your behind

What is the difference? This is not an ethics issue. It is a skill or bragging rights issue.

I have taken many young kids and even cityiots in small fenced hunts for pigs. My daughters learned to put a clean kill shot on a animal twice their size. Some of the city folk where bordering the anti side just because of the culture of their neighborhood. I can name a dozen or so that now have "northern hunt camps" that they take extended family to. They learned, in very simple and controlled environment, where meat comes from and felt empowered in the fact that they were the person that brought home the bacon. Beats the heck out of walking through a grocery store meat section. Ever visited a mass producing meat farm? That is were the anti's get most of there bullets.

Can't believe we are debating ethics on a legal shot animal no matter where it is taken.

Yikes!

I'm not debating anything. To each his own as long as it's legal.

Once your kids learn shooting skills on live animals.. you gonna teach them how to hunt wild, free ranging critters?

Heck, I know of guys that regularly hunt deer on back roads with a pickup and a snowplow... ooops, hit another one... Legal?, ethical?, lol

Girls were running traps long before they shot hogs. Every other critter been shot as well. All but Sarah. That girl don't want to kill nothing. Mommy's daughter I guess. lol

My mother in law shot a big doe out of the bathroom window again on Thanksgiving after we left. got to say that house is the most expensive deer stand I have ever bought but it multi year round use.

This is one of the problems with society. Letting the law decide what’s ethical or not.

Big problem with society today… going by what the law says is ethical instead of having your own moral compass

How about just supporting each other on a legal shot and way of hunting instead of just your own way to hunt.Bad enough fighting all the antis.Even if you don't like that way to hunt support them anyways.The antis will get us one at a time.The other guys way to hunt gets outlawed guess what?Yours is next.

I’m speaking more in general for society. Happy people feed themselves however they can.

Look at striped bass on the east coast.. severely restricted harvesting of a migratory fish but somehow Massachusettes is allowed to harvest them commercially…

You have a problem with commercial fishermen catching food for people that don't fish???

is that how you take what he wrote?

It's very clear a migratory fish moves. It's restricted heavily for individuals to harvest in part if it's range for the species supposed protection but a shirt distance away the same fish have no restrictions even for large scale harvest. Seems like a huge double standard at best. He is clearly referring to contradiction in laws. Yet you seem to want to act like he has an issue with commercial fishing and that takes a very big leap from what he wrote

Lifelong Alaskan and also Alaska native, I personally hate the commercial fishing industry. Most of the boats and crews aren't alaskans, they're usually addicts and vagrants who show up to trash Alaska for a couple months a year, then go find a bridge to sleep under in warmer climates until next fishing season

Yes, that's how I took it and still do...The entire Atlantic states fisheries are heavily managed with quotas, license moratoriums, and slot sizes, and the recreational harvest surpasses the commercial quota. The fishery is not endangered.

How is the commercial take of fish for the market different than trappers selling their catch so that non trappers can buy a beaver coat...?

is that how you take what he wrote?

It's very clear a migratory fish moves. It's restricted heavily for individuals to harvest in part if it's range for the species supposed protection but a shirt distance away the same fish have no restrictions even for large scale harvest. Seems like a huge double standard at best. He is clearly referring to contradiction in laws. Yet you seem to want to act like he has an issue with commercial fishing and that takes a very big leap from what he wrote

Thank you providence farm for articulating my point well.

I don't hate the concept of commercially harvesting natural resources, I fall timber for a living and sell firewood all winter. I'm specifically saying the fishing industry in Alaska attracts some of the lowest level individuals the world has to offer, which causes a lot places in coastal AK problems with substances, assaults, etc. It's not inherently the fishing that's an issue, so much as the crowds of s***heads who come up seasonally thinking they're gonna strike it rich

Deckhands ain't fishermen, lol

I feel your pain.

Deckhands aren't even most of the issue, they should be out to sea mostly. The processors are the real issue, land based or floating. I can't say all fish processors are bad people, but all bad people have had a job processing fish lol

So the chinook salmon in the pacific northwest to alaska are in a severe decline. In the gulf of alaska thousands of chinook are legal harverted or killed that are from WA,OR. and B.C. it appears to be legal, because the State only has escapement goals for Alaska fish, not other peoples fish.