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Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #8272928
11/27/24 04:59 PM
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You guys reliese there is only one other companion.
And they only except dry fur.
500 for a coat made in china......nooo


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Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #8273076
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Everybody buys to sell into that market, Greece, Turkey, and China buy fur to sell into that market.


So, companies (Greek) from basically a vassal state to the U.S. or at least to NATO/EU, is openly defying US/EU sanctions against the Rus? If so, I guess sanctions against the bad guys of the world only count if your a U.S. or Canadian company. Last I saw, 25% of the countries and 33% of the global population are under some sort of U.S. sanctions (and I presume Canada mostly goes along with the same list).

Another point to remember is that the Rus have been trying to get out of any USD or Euro-based debt or obligations since 2022. They are betting on BRICS and its expanding membership (and ways around Western sanctions through those countries) to work global financial deals. How else have the Russians (only a 150 million people) been able to transition to a war economy AND keep consumer goods relatively stable if the Western sanctions were such a crippling weapon...?

One last thing, you do know that the Rus shot a modified ICBM (removed one of the flight sections to make it a IRBM) with a mirv'ed kinetic warhead bus that hit a large Ukie military factory (many of the workshops multiple sub-basement floors down) going Mach 10 on impact in the middle the country, correct? The U.S. Space Force's "Rods of God" isn't the only weapon now out there using terminal kinetic energy to do potential serious localized damage. And the Rus don't have to put their non-explosive hypersonic kinetic weapons onto a satellite platform.

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Per capita, Ukraine buys more fur than Russia so that is another 40-50 million people that are not buying much fur the last 3 years or so either.


Old data Bryce, probably 2014 or before that Ukie land had 45 million people. Between the willing exodus since 2014 and especially in 2022 before Z man started to close the borders to anyone trying to leave the country, and the people now under Russian control in the south and southeast parts of old Ukraine SSR (and most of those don't have a problem with it), and military causalities that the Ukies have taken (go find satellite videos of the massively expanding cemeteries on the edges of some of Ukraine's largest cities still under the Kiev government control), Ukraine's population under Z man's control is probably 20 million or less (those are numbers I've seen for a good while now).

Yeah, they're probably out the end-user fur market for a long time to come.


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
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Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #8273242
11/27/24 11:18 PM
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Below is the data I was using.

37,937,821
The current population of Ukraine in 2024 is 37,937,821, a 3.25% increase from 2023. The population of Ukraine in 2023 was 36,744,634, a 7.45% decline from 2022. The population of Ukraine in 2022 was 39,701,739, a 8.8% decline from 2021. The population of Ukraine in 2021 was 43,531,422, a 0.86% decline from 2020.

Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #8273263
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Sorry Bryce, you need to stop drinking the Kool Aid. I know you being a good older man (I think in your later 70s, correct?) you probably believe most of what you been fed by the western corporate media and the "government" but those numbers are a joke.

I have no "security clearances" but the if the iies, pure cronyism, and just pure fantasy I see in my little fairly "benevolent" part of the government are true, what the deep state and others more "kinetically" involved in the geopolitical nonsense try to pass as facts are pretty frightening.

But whatever, I still respect you as an American man because I think you are basically a righteous dude. And we can agree to disagree.

Someday, we''ll get our country back. Maybe.


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #8273332
11/28/24 06:41 AM
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Starting sets tomorrow. Can’t wait. 45 years of this and Covid was only year I couldn’t sell anything. I’ll take low over zero any day. Also pretty low competition when market is low. Totally OK by me. Thank you everyone who sits it out on sidelines waiting for higher markets. Going to be fun again and looking forward to the solitude and higher animal populations again this winter. Can’t wait.
Jim

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Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: jabNE] #8273365
11/28/24 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jabNE
Starting sets tomorrow. Can’t wait. 45 years of this and Covid was only year I couldn’t sell anything. I’ll take low over zero any day. Also pretty low competition when market is low. Totally OK by me. Thank you everyone who sits it out on sidelines waiting for higher markets. Going to be fun again and looking forward to the solitude and higher animal populations again this winter. Can’t wait.
Jim

I like it Jim!
Tight chains buddy!


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Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: jabNE] #8273614
11/28/24 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jabNE
Starting sets tomorrow. Can’t wait. 45 years of this and Covid was only year I couldn’t sell anything. I’ll take low over zero any day. Also pretty low competition when market is low. Totally OK by me. Thank you everyone who sits it out on sidelines waiting for higher markets. Going to be fun again and looking forward to the solitude and higher animal populations again this winter. Can’t wait.
Jim

I started running pretty hard last week. Coons are looking great, and plenty of them. I'm covering parts of 3 counties and have run into two other trappers. Stopped and had a pleasant conversation with one, the other I haven't met but have seen his sets. I'm having a lot of fun without much thought to the financial side of things. I figure I better trap while I can; never know when a season may be your last!

Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: Dirt] #8302182
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I didn’t get much for my fall beavers I caught coon trapping. $18 for blankets and $12 for the xl


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Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #8302251
01/04/25 03:32 PM
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Swampwolf may be doing all he can to ruin your yankee beaver pelt peddling market but not me, ive kept several hundred out of the pipe line, doing my part to save your once in every 200 years beaver market, lol.

As for the ruble, if it isn't that it's the cheap oil price's, if they are below 70 bucks a barrel Russia can't afford fur, remember? Ive hear all sort of reason's but bottom line is if every JC Penny, etc type store (what few are left) had jackets/shirts with actual fur cuffs and collars as well as fur slippers and accessories galore everywhere instead of all the fake fur crap you see ya might have a fur market back!

Don't want to get attacked for wearing a fur coat down the street? No problem, start dying pelts the color of leopard print since that seems to be a popular color right now, could dye all sorts of hip colors the young girls like out of our low grade coat coon and southerner's would once again have a coon market. But it's easier to just make stuff out of crappy synthetic's and call it good.

In the meantime beat ol Groney to death for making a dollar, imagine his wool sales is what keeps the bills paid around there, not the 2 dollar 'rats he buys ya'll think should be worth 20, lol.


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Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #8302259
01/04/25 03:40 PM
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I doubt that wool sales helps them much. Have you seen what wool prices are these days? Pretty certain that New Zealand and Australia ruint that market long ago.


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Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #8302264
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I just got my first pair of blended wool socks for Christmas this year, wore them last week and feet never got cold in the hipboots, isn't that amazing? lol. Im 59 years old and just discovered this! lol

But no ive not seen wool price's but imagine he's moving ALOT of it. Side note, anyone paying attention to ranch mink? Not seeing those talked about anywhere, how many MILLIONS are no longer produced due to al that covid crap shutting down ranch's all over?

Lack of product means people look for other products to use, thus synthetic fur which is more reliable to come by and you don't get the public's adverse reaction from wearing it.

Connect all the dots it's not hard to see WHY there isn't a fur market anymore and probably never will be again.


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Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #8302266
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Around here sheep farmers just compost their wool. Doesn't pay enough to even be worth shipping it. Kind of like some other natural fibers we trappers might be thinking of.


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Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #8302274
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Whats the point of raising sheep then? I see more sheep here in the south being raised now than ive ever seen in my lifetime, must be money in them somewhere. Lamb chops i guess but only time i ate sheep it was awful and i won't ever eat it again.


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Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #8302279
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It's 100% meat market. Millions of them in Oregon too.

(Can't be any worse eatin' than possum can they?....and we all know southerners adore possum. I learned that from watching the Beverly Hillbillies.)

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Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #8302287
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Lots worse! Possum taste alot like pork, pretty good eating the one and only time i had it.


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Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: Jtrapper] #8302337
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Originally Posted by Jtrapper
Lack of product means people look for other products to use, thus synthetic fur which is more reliable to come by and you don't get the public's adverse reaction from wearing it.

Connect all the dots it's not hard to see WHY there isn't a fur market anymore and probably never will be again.


Maybe I haven’t looked around much, but have you found a synthetic fur that looks and feels like the real deal? Every “fur” ruff I’ve seen looks a bit off but feels terrible! Some want fur for a real reason, warm, and the feel, looks are sometimes 3rd. Like you say though, they’ll have to turn to something to fill the void. CG just completely got away from any fur look, but there’s other high end expensive manufacturers that are proud to advertise it.


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There’s an organization here that rents/ leases sheep to control grass growth in large solar installations. Buck in everything!

Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #8302359
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
It's 100% meat market. Millions of them in Oregon too.

(Can't be any worse eatin' than possum can they?....and we all know southerners adore possum. I learned that from watching the Beverly Hillbillies.)

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Re: 2024-2025 Fur Prices [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #8302619
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Shakeyjake, right, that fake fur feels like crap BUT customer's NEVER get to feel or see real fur! I had Shelly a red fox coat made some years ago and you should see the reaction of her friends when she wear's it, it's the first time they ever saw a fur coat and felt it in person! All of them want to sit and 'pet' it, lol. Make the stuff available to at least see and feel and i bet you there would be a huge demand for fur again.


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