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Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: ol' dad] #8276939
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Originally Posted by ol' dad
Like I said, he has no reason to plead the fifth anymore. They can still put him on trial as a witness for other people's (family) crimes. Ask him the same questions they asked him before when he plead the fifth. He'll either have to answer them or perjure himself which this pardon does not cover.

Ol dad


Not quite that simple. He will still plead the fifth. Just because he was accused, tried and found guilty, doesn't mean there aren't other crimes with which he could be charged. And no lawyer is going to let him testify now for fear he will (a) be accused of perjury not covered by the current pardon, or (b) implicate himself in a yet-to-be charged crime not covered by the pardon. Remember, once he's on the stand and takes the fifth, no one can "make" him testify about anything. He refuses to testify and walks off the stand.

Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: keets] #8276950
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How can a person self incriminate if they aren't the one on trial, and if called as a witness for the prosecution he would have to show up.

Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: keets] #8276958
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No pardons should be legal unless on appeal or through some type of court process but will wait to hear all the crying after Jan when the new office gets in Im sure they will all be ok. for every action there will be the same action by the other side because the voters allow it.

Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: keets] #8276966
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If Biden really wants to be remembered he should pardon the J6ers and steal a little thunder from DJT.


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Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: Rat Masterson] #8276969
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
How can a person self incriminate if they aren't the one on trial, and if called as a witness for the prosecution he would have to show up.

If Hunter was on trial, he wouldn't take the stand. Can't be compelled to testify against himself either.

Lots of ways to incriminate oneself as a witness vs. being the accused. Suppose a witness admits on the stand that he was the getaway driver when the Defendant killed someone. Most states make the getaway driver at least an accessory to the crime, and some states even define the getaway driver as a manslaughter or second degree murder felon.

Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: keets] #8276996
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If Joe was on trial Hunter would have to testify, and because he was cleared of all charges how would a judge allow the 5th if the ? were about Joe.

Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: keets] #8277062
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The amount of snippets on talk radio today about how many times ice cream joey said he would NOT pardon his son was innumerable. Amazing how many times joey was called "presidential", "respectful", "a real law man".

Disgusting, nauseating, pathetic.

Although, I absolutely knew he would pardon his son. This paves the street smooth for President Trump to pardon all the j6ers.

I would sue the crap out of anyone I could for wrongful incarceration and miscarriage of justice. I would be beyond ticked.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: keets] #8277073
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I would investigate Pelosi and her ilk for running a sham deal on the Jan6 investigation. IMO the only way people will start to believe in the government again is when someone on the left goes to jail.

Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: Rat Masterson] #8277080
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
IMO the only way people will start to believe in the government again is when someone on the left goes to jail.



it'll never happen...they run interference for each other

Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: keets] #8277139
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Yawn...
We have bigger fish to fry.

Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: keets] #8277167
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Be willing to bet that I wouldn’t have those charges dropped, if I were charged with the same.

Regular folk don’t count in their world.

Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: Rat Masterson] #8277258
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
I would investigate Pelosi and her ilk for running a sham deal on the Jan6 investigation. IMO the only way people will start to believe in the government again is when someone on the left goes to jail.


Pelosi and McConnell both going to jail would go a long way to restoring a little faith in gov.


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Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: keets] #8277306
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The president shouldn’t be able to pardon anyone for any reason. The ability to do so needs to be removed.


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Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: hippie] #8277330
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Originally Posted by hippie
Originally Posted by danvee
America set a new standard when we let Ford pardon Nixon and why upset with Biden when Trump pardoned Jared Kushner his son in law for multiple felonies and did prison time and now will appoint him as the ambassador to France he pardoned Roger stone. The only ones to blame is the public that lets the politician's get away with it. When they do these things we watch the news like a coyote following a mama bird dragging her wing away from her nest and in this case the nest is our national debt. This is the biggest problem I see in America and we just let them kick the can down the road on the debt. You think Trump wont raise the debt to new levels just keep you eye on it, it will all be justified and more money printed to keep the Ponzi scheme going. The only way I ever see things changing is for most of America refusing to pay taxes until things change the jails are not big enough.



LOL, its funny that you say people should quit paying taxes, which is what Jareds dad, not Jared got a pardon for after serving a couple years.

You can't make this up, lol.


Hey now, don’t let facts get in the way of a good orange man bad slander…. These people never learn. Lol

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Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: keets] #8277397
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No one is above the law!!! laugh

What a lying sack of dung!!


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Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: keets] #8277447
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Lots of talk about Trump pardoning the Jan6ers, but I would prefer he didn't. Instead they should all be granted a new trial since there has been and will be considerable evidence about what really happened that day that was never allowed in the earlier "trials". Let's open up the books on just how much FBI involvement occurred that day and exactly why there was very little effort to stop the protesters in the first place. How about some open honest accountability for everything that went on. How about opening the books on the fake bomb attempt at the DNC that day that no one seems interested in investigating. Pardons will do nothing to right the wrongs of all that went on that day.

Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: keets] #8277483
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Biden shouldn't have lied and his son is a degenerate.

Presidents however get to pardon whoever they want. But, I would let these losers, an everyone like them, rot in jail.


Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: keets] #8277495
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I don't see anything wrong. People were protesting a tyrannical government. If anything, they were being modest about it. No guns were being used. And I know that you are a big supporter of using firearms to defend against a tyrannical government. So what is your problem again with J6?

ol' dad

Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: ol' dad] #8277503
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Originally Posted by ol' dad
I don't see anything wrong. People were protesting a tyrannical government. If anything, they were being modest about it. No guns were being used. And I know that you are a big supporter of using firearms to defend against a tyrannical government. So what is your problem again with J6?

ol' dad

Agreed,,,and if they could have got into Pelosis office,,,could have been Cocktails all around !!!!


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Re: BREAKING NEWS [Re: keets] #8277523
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If that's an insurrection I got a bridge to sell ya. 17 years and not even being there for the guy that "planned it". The government made an example of these people while trying to blame Trump, more lies by the left. To top it off an unarmed women was killed and the shooter was given a pass by Pelosi. Nothing more than a big double standard, again.

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