BLM Land Transfer in Utah
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Has anyone else heard much about this? https://wyofile.com/wyoming-backs-utahs-quest-to-seize-blm-land-may-want-other-fed-property/MeatEater has a recent podcast episode and, for as serious as this sounds for the loss of public lands, I’m surprised I’m not hearing anything about it. By all accounts if the politicians in Utah were to successfully transfer the BLM lands into state ownership it would set the precedent for transfer of all Federal land in the country. The most likely outcome is that the land would be sold off to private ownership and every U.S. citizen would lose access to hundreds of millions of acres, let alone the ecosystem services these lands provide.
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Re: BLM Land Transfer in Utah
[Re: Leroy Bob]
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I've talked to the forest service and the Blm and they say land swaps are only allowed if it benefits the public ...
Unless maybe $$$$$$$$ back door deal
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Re: BLM Land Transfer in Utah
[Re: AntiGov]
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I've talked to the forest service and the Blm and they say land swaps are only allowed if it benefits the public ...
Unless maybe $$$$$$$$ back door deal Who decides if it benefits the public????? We know who owns the State of Utah and they are already scary rich. Richer than most could comprehend. What about the people who already own the grazing rights or mineral rights to federal land?
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Re: BLM Land Transfer in Utah
[Re: Leroy Bob]
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Dirt
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What's it called when the government owns the means of production?
Who is John Galt?
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Re: BLM Land Transfer in Utah
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That is a little scary. I like to see things managed at a state level, but states do have a habit of getting money hungry and selling off land to the highest bidder Or giving it to the Natives like they are doing here.
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Re: BLM Land Transfer in Utah
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That is a little scary. I like to see things managed at a state level, but states do have a habit of getting money hungry and selling off land to the highest bidder ....also lots of state ground in idaho is posted no tresspass
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Re: BLM Land Transfer in Utah
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12/20/24 11:58 PM
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That is a little scary. I like to see things managed at a state level, but states do have a habit of getting money hungry and selling off land to the highest bidder ....also lots of state ground in idaho is posted no tresspass I haven’t seen any state land posted in Idaho. Where do you see this? A lot of State land here is intermixed with BLM land.
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Re: BLM Land Transfer in Utah
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Lots of Federal land is one of the things that makes Utah great for outdoorsmen. Always a place to hunt, trap, fish or just get away. The circle I run with is totally against it. I'm sure developers are licking their chops. Is there a lot of buzz about this in Utah? And does it seem likely they’re going to pull this off?
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Re: BLM Land Transfer in Utah
[Re: Leroy Bob]
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Western states are shutting down hunting now. First it was trapping on "public" land. I dont think it matters whether its sold off or not. Forest service has closed tons of roads. Grazing rights are cut every year. Not even legal to pick up dead limbs off the ground, remove them from the forest for firewood. The urbanization of our country is spelling the end of our way of life. Our descendants are not going to hunt trap fish camp and wander around the way we have.
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Re: BLM Land Transfer in Utah
[Re: Leroy Bob]
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Dirt
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I believe the founders believed in turning Federal real estate into productive private property.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: BLM Land Transfer in Utah
[Re: Leroy Bob]
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When USFW bring wolves to your State whose land do they release them on?
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