Phragmites
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11/02/24 05:49 AM
11/02/24 05:49 AM
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These plants we call "flag" locally have taken over ditches and swamps all over my part of WNY through the last 15 years. The seeds seemed to spread rapidly. They crowd out and kill all the cattails. Muskrats have declined and all but disappeared where these take over. Doesn't seem that the muskrat eats any of it. Anyone else across the nation seen this invasive plant?
Last edited by Turtledale; 11/02/24 05:49 AM.
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Re: Phragmites
[Re: Turtledale]
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11/02/24 09:04 AM
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We've had it forever, don't know if it's the native or invasive variety, but it does take over. deer use it for cover and bedding, muskrats try to subsist on the roots but they're soon gone. We call it cat tails here, and we call cat tails punks, don't know why, lol, but a lot less "punks" now, the "cat tails" take over eventually.... There's been some half hearted efforts to control it but it's a hopeless cause.
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Re: Phragmites
[Re: rick olson]
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11/02/24 09:45 AM
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We call it Canary grass up here,it does soak up the moisture.Some of the area's with it the deer love to bed in it. Rick look closely that is the invasive species of phragmites. The tops are larger and it is still a green stem colour. The native species has turned a golden colour now the stems and the seed heads are hand size . The worst spreader of it is the railways as it seeds get on the trains and travel to fall off miles away during a rain or wind storm. As well the burnt rail-right-of -ways is a perfect germination spot for the seeds then
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Re: Phragmites
[Re: Northof50]
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11/02/24 10:26 AM
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We call it Canary grass up here,it does soak up the moisture.Some of the area's with it the deer love to bed in it. Rick look closely that is the invasive species of phragmites. The tops are larger and it is still a green stem colour. The native species has turned a golden colour now the stems and the seed heads are hand size . The worst spreader of it is the railways as it seeds get on the trains and travel to fall off miles away during a rain or wind storm. As well the burnt rail-right-of -ways is a perfect germination spot for the seeds then Around here the towns, county's and states spread them like wildfire cutting the ditches and dispersing the seed
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Re: Phragmites
[Re: cattails]
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11/02/24 03:54 PM
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Canary grass and phragmites are two different species. Both grow so aggressively that they choke out any other food sources. It's a shame what they do to a marsh. User name checks out! But AMEN to your post!
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Re: Phragmites
[Re: Turtledale]
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12/23/24 11:59 AM
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Muskrats will eat it and build houses with them. But it doesn't have the minerals or the nutriments they need it seems. Rats are much smaller than normal when caught in places that that grass is found. Also , many times you find houses, and no rats. They just seem to disappear. I always thought it came from people buying it at a nursery , to plant as an ornamental plant. I don't like it at all, it spreads through it's roots more than by seed.
We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
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