Me too. The reality is though states are doing just that. If federal land is sold to pay the national debt in states that have limited/banned/reduced, hunting trapping fishing camping foraging then what is there to lose??????????????????????????

Assuming buyers can be found. if it takes a section to feed 3-4 cow calf pairs, or more, how much commercial value does it have? Some forest is valuable for timber but any bets on whether condition of sale is no timber harvest? My guess is states want the land with no federal compensation. Any money from sales going to the state.

Because people gifted lands would just sell them at first chance, eventually, like now, only people owning land would be those that sacrificed something.

Where are you getting this idea that the sale would go towards paying off national debt? I’d bet that land would sell for pennies on the dollar and not a single penny would go towards our $30 trillion+ in debt. The estimate is $500/acre and I hate to inform you, but we don’t have 60 BILLION acres of land to sell.

BLM is the least restrictive of all federal lands and currently affords all of those opportunities, however limited by the ecosystem.

Would you support foreign countries buying that land? Or a Mormon cult? I have a feeling they’re most likely to land it but, hey, at least they’ll shave a few million off our skyrocketing national debt.

i dont care who buys land I have been tossed off of.

And of course lock you out of it.

500 an acre ? Even the common man could buy some.

Sounds to me like you’d give up the liberty of public land for the temporary safety of less national debt.

Go west young man go west. Bring traps and guns. Go to CO NM AZ CA and find out how much liberty you still have. Its obvious you dont have a clue whats been stolen from you.

I’ve lived in Alaska and Montana. Harvested a lot of critters in those states and enjoyed the heck out of the vast expanses of those public lands. I’ve worked fires in several other western states.

No doubt some of those states you mention have limited access for various reasons. More people mixing with the landscape will only bring more complexities. Doesn’t mean we should sell our traps and guns and give up.

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The problem that people in the west have against Federal ownership is that the Bureaucrats and politicians in washington DC are "managing" the natutal resources in places like Nevada which is about 90% owned by the Feds. It was never intended to work this way.
I can assure you, if the States get these millions of acres, it will not go into private ownership. There might be a little more development of some of, ski areas, etc., but that wss the original idea, multiple use for economic development.

For any activity to take place on Federal lands, for better or for worse, there’s a NEPA process. This gives people a say in what activities can take place where so it’s not necessarily just up to bureaucrats. Of course it’s not a perfect process and I recognize that in some instances the state is better off managing some of these lands. Heck, Federal land is sold or swapped all the time. Typically to improve access, habitat congruency, or management opportunities. But never on the proposed scale.

I would just encourage that people listen to the MeatEater podcast that I mentioned previously. This issue is more about the door that will be opened if these Utah BLM lands are allowed to be sold and what it means for all Federally owned lands in the future. In a world where our common interests are always under attack I don’t believe this is an outcome we want to see.

They're going to get their butts handed to them in court AGAIN for like the 50th time on this. They signed off any claims to these lands when they became a state. How conveniently they never bring that up. Not once, but twice they gave up any future ownership of said lands. I won't beat around the bush, the LDS church and their cronies in the statehouse are driving this movement. Follow the money. They want to turn the whole state into the Deseret ranch

Common man would never get the chance. These lands would be sold before the public ever got a whiff of them being available

Lol, you named off 4 Democrat controlled states. Well done.

They gave the state of Nevada several million acres. They sold off every bit of it. It would take someone from Washington to think making this private is a good idea. Sorry, but this am idiotic idea every time it gets mentioned. You think it's hard to find places to go now, wait till the LDS church, China, and Blackrock own everything. Then get back to us about how free this country is.

There's not a single western state that could manage the federal land within their borders any better than the feds do, and that's not setting the bar very high. First fire season would destroy their budget, feds will laugh and say good luck. Those lands will be sold at the drop of a hat, access denied, and the things you enjoy now will be nothing but distant memories. It's far from a perfect system now, but it's better than any ideas this idiots in Utah could ever possibly come up with.

Sneaky, I'm one of those Utah idiots and I couldn't agree more. Well said Sir.

I can't speak for Utah, but the State of Alaska sold me two peices of State land and amazingly one ten acre parcel for 500 an acre. I even hunt and trap them.

Hey Sneaky, ask huntetd and trappers in Alaska how they feel about the Feds managing most of Alaska.