Chicken manure gets up to 130F to 150F when composting. Avian Influenza can't even survive the much lower 106F to 108F that is the pigeon waking body temperature. Get a point and read thermometer and take some readings on manure piles and deep litter and you will see it reaches much higher temperatures than influenza can survive.

Bird flu has been common overseas for many years. Wild waterfowl bring it to the US. The current evidence shows that it has caused occasional die offs in waterfowl in the US for at least hundreds of years. Nobody knew what it was back then.

Commercial chicken farmers have extremely good biosecurity procedures. They are inspected very frequently. They have to follow vey strict guidelines on manure disposal.

The reason it's called chicken litter rather than just chicken manure, is that it has bedding in it too.

The margins big livestock farms operate on are terrible. I could not live on the margins they make without having and selling very high volumes of birds and other animals. Americans enjoy low food prices because of the ability of large producers to cheaply mass produce meat and eggs. Without large scale production, many Americans would starve.

Keith

Maybe kill canine's also ? seems so here

I suspect (zero actual evidence) that bird flu has been evolving much more rapidly due to commercial poultry and backyard birds. It doesn't seem coincidental that we've been having major bird flu issues since backyard poultry has become repopularized.

I don't feel as though it's one thing causing die offs in wild birds, its likely multiple factors but I feel like the die offs have been under reported and widely ignored.

Most commercial poultry, including layers and meat birds don't pass on any genes at all because they are culled. They are also never exposed to other domestic birds. Most infection probably comes from wild birds, whose dander is sucked through the massive ventilation systems.

The hatcheries that supply the commercial producers are very biosecure. Equipment, vehicles and even workers are sprayed with disinfectants.

Keith

I have a commercial broiler barn. For every cubic foot of air that comes in one goes out along with dust, feathers, warm air. Wild birds will pick grit in the areas of the driveway the exhaust fans melt the snow from. If flu does get in a broiler barn it has ideal conditions and lots of host to help it evolve fast.

Well if the bird flu test is as reliable as the swabbed covid test for dummies every door handle and play ground jungle gym is infected too….

Thanks for your post...I'm not a farmer but live on 60 acres.....when all my friends and family were buying their first home in subdivisions, l went further out and for same money bought land and old farm house....no plumbing either...straight out of late 1800s...raised always freezer beef, spring lambs, chickens.......but with the mega forced production of eggs and chickens for meat.....IMO....can't be safe or healthy....for the chicken or the public......the farmer I was mentioned is reckless ....has an arsenal of manure equipment and delivers and spreads regardless of humidity...winds.....air temp...etc......not to mention rainy days and runoffs.....all his equipment has rubber tracks.....this is where bird flu plays a part spreading faster by being carried in manure...I'm no anti farming...anti buisness...anti anything.....it's just I feel this bird flu thing is not going to be good for animals domestic or wild and humans......the other guys post early on...I haven't even read.....seems he was looking for argument....see your name on others topics...and enjoy reading them......... later...............
Sorry to get windy with this post

If you were more local I would give you a tour of a poultry barn. My opinion is that it's a great way to raise birds, they're healthy, grow fast and require very little medication, no added hormones, etc. It's a really good product.

The manure is incredibly valuable, it's typically used cautiously as it has such a tremendous value. Though it's theoretically possible to get flu from manure it's unlikely. My personal belief is that the exhust fans pose more of a possibility at spreading flu to wild birds.

If you ever want to talk about commercial poultry you can private message me, happy to discuss it and you don't gotta worry about hurting my feelings, I'm not sensitive.

Ok thanks....I'll take you up on that later sometime.....give me a better place to explain myself.....I'm not looking for argument or fight like some on this forum....the nuns that taught me for 12 years long ago....always told me my thinking never transferred to my writing it out on paper.....