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Hunters that don’t support trapping #8313902
01/16/25 10:18 AM
01/16/25 10:18 AM
Joined: Jun 2007
Illinois
foxkidd44 Offline OP
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Illinois
Been seeing quite a few trapping videos lately with open comments .
The videos are from individuals and not from any particular group,,
They are tasteful videos and do a great job representing what a fantastic wildlife management tool trapping is,,
As usual, we have the antis making their uneducated, biased opinions…
But what was really disturbing,, was the people who claimed to be hunters who said trapping was unethical, inhumane and cruel.
I tried to refrain from engaging them in a negative manner,,, I did tell them that they are playing directly into the hands of the antis,,, divide and conquer,,,they hate hunting just like trapping…and they will eventually come after them too.
I didn’t bring up that hunting doesn’t always have clean, quick kills
A bodygrip has a higher success rate of clean quick kills than the majority of hunters.. for whatever reasons,, there may be an errant shot.
Why are there so many uneducated hunters out there? I don’t get it
We should all be on the same team.


Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last.
Abraham Lincoln
Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: foxkidd44] #8313912
01/16/25 10:34 AM
01/16/25 10:34 AM
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It started mostly between houndsman and trappers, the few that didnt do both and is now days promoted mostly by the magazine learned bowhunters.

Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: foxkidd44] #8313937
01/16/25 11:15 AM
01/16/25 11:15 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Northern Maine
Bruce T Online content
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Bruce T  Online Content
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Northern Maine
You just can't fix stupid.Alot of people are all about themselves and if its not done their way they don't support it.Pretty shallow people.


NRA,NTA,MTA,FTA

#1 goal=Trap a wolverine
Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: foxkidd44] #8313945
01/16/25 11:23 AM
01/16/25 11:23 AM
Joined: May 2011
Garden,Michigan
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Buck (Zandra) Offline
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Garden,Michigan
They don't listen.They've set themselves up on a pedestal,and we're beneath them.The pin heads think they'll find common ground with the antis and they'll save their own backside by sacrificing us.It's a waste of breath trying to talk to them,I've tried.


Buck(formely known as Zandra)
Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: Bruce T] #8313947
01/16/25 11:25 AM
01/16/25 11:25 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Wisconsin
Muskrat Offline
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Joined: Dec 2006
Wisconsin
Originally Posted by Bruce T
You just can't fix stupid.Alot of people are all about themselves and if its not done their way they don't support it.Pretty shallow people.


Exactly. Add to that now we've got the intolerant you tube learned "experts" . . .


Lifetime member of WTA and NTA
Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: foxkidd44] #8313952
01/16/25 11:33 AM
01/16/25 11:33 AM
Joined: May 2021
New Jersey
CJonesFTA Offline
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Joined: May 2021
New Jersey
It is a very big divide in the upland community, and I think it is mostly do to lack of education. As a bird dog owner, and a trapper... it's pretty simple to see the positive connection and how trappers can 100% directly and positively affect bird numbers. Wild and stocked. But most can't get past their dog getting caught in a foothold or a snare. It's a bit education on both sides, but most trappers do think about where they set, and think about other outdoor participants. I often share the video the FTA has on our YT page about releasing your pet from a trap. I always carry wire cutters when I'm out with my dogs, more so because I'm afraid of old farm debris and fence lines on a lot of our public lands.

But I've also seen a lot of comments from big game hunters who think it's cruel. Again, uneducated. It's probably an unpopular opinion, but I think trapping did a disservice by being quiet so long, and not wanting to open communication with other outdoorsmen and women. That tide is turning, and we have to be mindful that it is our job to educate others about the ways of trapping, how it is beneficial and how highly regulated it is.


Cristina Jones
Fur Takers of America
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Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: foxkidd44] #8313966
01/16/25 11:50 AM
01/16/25 11:50 AM
Joined: Jun 2022
Manitoba
Shakeyjake Online content
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Joined: Jun 2022
Manitoba
I had a bow hunter telling me that the barbaric act of trapping should be banned. I lit him up in a long rant on his ironic comment and I think I got kick off that FB group for it...lol


Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: foxkidd44] #8313973
01/16/25 11:53 AM
01/16/25 11:53 AM
Joined: Dec 2007
barton county kansas
Sasquatch91 Offline
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barton county kansas
Saw some gal in pennsylvania i believe was walking her dog on state managed ground or some sort of public wildlife area. Her dog stepped in a foothold, when she tried helping the dog it bit the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) outa her. She had to find a warden to help her. Then she goes and complains that trapping should have more regulations and not be allowed on public. Buncha yahoos


"You skin that one pilgrim."



Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: foxkidd44] #8313978
01/16/25 12:00 PM
01/16/25 12:00 PM
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williamsburg ks
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A LOT of hunters today are dont care about meat just like a lot of trappers dont care about money. Hunting for food and trapping for money are things mostly us old guys do. So the hunters worry about trappers scaring off their trophy and trappers have to deal with dogs and loss of ground. You would think folks who hunt and trap only for satisfaction of being outside and the pursuit would be more tolerant of each other. I miss my youth when hunting and trapping were fun but the goal was meat and money, not bragging rights.

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Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: foxkidd44] #8313980
01/16/25 12:07 PM
01/16/25 12:07 PM
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williamsburg ks
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Sasquatch91, The public mined land in the south east corner of KS has signs that say public hunting fishing and trapping. I wish the corps of engineers would do that on public ground around reservoirs.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: Bruce T] #8313983
01/16/25 12:08 PM
01/16/25 12:08 PM
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USA-WI
Originally Posted by Bruce T
You just can't fix stupid.Alot of people are all about themselves and if its not done their way they don't support it.Pretty shallow people.


What about the trapper that sets a body grip in a bad spot and kills a high dollar birddog? Is that stupid, all about themselves and shallow?

Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: Kre] #8313989
01/16/25 12:14 PM
01/16/25 12:14 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Northern Maine
Bruce T Online content
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Northern Maine
Originally Posted by Kre
Originally Posted by Bruce T
You just can't fix stupid.Alot of people are all about themselves and if its not done their way they don't support it.Pretty shallow people.


What about the trapper that sets a body grip in a bad spot and kills a high dollar birddog? Is that stupid, all about themselves and shallow?

All about themselves and a stupid move for the trapper in that case.I still support all legal trapping,hunting,and fishing regardless if I do it that way or not..


NRA,NTA,MTA,FTA

#1 goal=Trap a wolverine
Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: foxkidd44] #8313990
01/16/25 12:14 PM
01/16/25 12:14 PM
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williamsburg ks
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What about the trapper that sets a body grip in a bad spot and kills a high dollar birddog? Is that stupid, all about themselves and shallow?


YES. Just as bad as a coonhunter trespassing and throwing all your traps into a pond or river. If your on public property, or high people/dog area, use a little common sense.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: foxkidd44] #8313992
01/16/25 12:15 PM
01/16/25 12:15 PM
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Indiana
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Indiana
Pick any topic and as the same question it's fitting. Society used to have people that could think and reason. Intellectual debate was sought out and looked on highly. That's not that case today. Even here I have got pm that went strait into the gutter with name calling and accusations of my wife's fedility when the individual could not come up with a single point on my stances to respectfully dispute. NOW I can get in the gutter with the best of them but it's not productive.

It is everywhere our society is one that's in decline.

Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: Providence Farm] #8313995
01/16/25 12:16 PM
01/16/25 12:16 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Northern Maine
Bruce T Online content
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Pick any topic and as the same question it's fitting. Society used to have people that could think and reason. Intellectual debate was sought out and looked on highly. That's not that case today. Even here I have got pm that went strait into the gutter with name calling and accusations of my wife's fedility when the individual could not come up with a single point on my stances to respectfully dispute. NOW I can get in the gutter with the best of them but it's not productive.

It is everywhere our society is one that's in decline.

Every barrel has bad apples.


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#1 goal=Trap a wolverine
Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: foxkidd44] #8314000
01/16/25 12:25 PM
01/16/25 12:25 PM
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Dirt Online content
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When did society have people that think? People become irrational about thier obsessions.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: danny clifton] #8314001
01/16/25 12:30 PM
01/16/25 12:30 PM
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barton county kansas
Sasquatch91 Offline
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barton county kansas
Yessir i agree with you. Common sence aint to common anymore though.


"You skin that one pilgrim."



Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: Bruce T] #8314003
01/16/25 12:32 PM
01/16/25 12:32 PM
Joined: Feb 2014
NWT
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NWT
Originally Posted by Bruce T
You just can't fix stupid. A lot of people are all about themselves and if its not done their way they don't support it. Pretty shallow people.


pretty much what i was going to say. EGO. I've spent time in trophy hunting/outfitters camps and seen it first hand. Its getting less common for someone to congratulate another on success too as far as I can tell.


If you take care of the land the land will take care of you
Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: foxkidd44] #8314013
01/16/25 12:42 PM
01/16/25 12:42 PM
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Alaska
Yeah I've never gotten how most people understand so little about the world around them. One of my wife's cousins (who bow hunts moose every year) told me that trapping is a lazy, cowardly way to hunt. I explained that he was way off, the purpose was because those traps can be there working 24 hours a day, I cannot. I also invited him along so he could see just how "lazy" trapping is (he didn't make it 3 hours, I had to haul him into town)

Re: Hunters that don’t support trapping [Re: foxkidd44] #8314016
01/16/25 12:45 PM
01/16/25 12:45 PM
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I think the vast majority of trappers are hunters.
There have been issues here between dog hunters and trappers,for example some doghunters claiming to be trappers lobbying govt for trapping restrictions.
OFAH and the OFMF work together pretty well here and issues are ironed out.
Some restrictions on snaring were put in place in the south to accomodate the hound deer hunters.
When Cable restraints were tested by the OFMF and Ag sector for use in the restricted snaring area OFAH did back us up on getting them approved for nuisance as well as fur harvesting in the south.
One benefit here is that there is usually a trapper or two on the board of directors of the OFAH

Last edited by Boco; 01/16/25 12:47 PM.

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