Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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02/02/25 03:20 PM
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Hey NVwrangler. Thanks for explaining what you do, and I'm sorry that my asking about it painted a target on your back. I don't feel you did that, Angela. I do know some need to put on their big boy pants and acknowledge the various nuances that make some people's jobs very necessary , over the wasted funding of other subjects. NVW's work is one of those needed services to OUR BLM land. " As long as there's need for cowboys, Ill have work"...... Rip , Yellowstone 
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Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees
[Re: nvwrangler]
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02/02/25 03:39 PM
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I am 57 with 25 years federal service. We all got the email but most occupations in our department are exempt/critical for public health. Only had two employees take the deal but their occupations are exempted so they are required to keep working while waiting to resign in September.
I don't plan on going anywhere.
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Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees
[Re: Jtrapper]
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02/02/25 06:14 PM
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Im 59 with 23 years in and seen emails flying all week and no clue what any of it means. Probably cause my idea of retiring is being lowered into a hole in some skull orchard. Same boat I'm in. My retirement party will be held at Browne's Funeral Home. Check the obituary. There should be plenty of seats.
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Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees
[Re: 52Carl]
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02/02/25 06:29 PM
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Im 59 with 23 years in and seen emails flying all week and no clue what any of it means. Probably cause my idea of retiring is being lowered into a hole in some skull orchard. Same boat I'm in. My retirement party will be held at Browne's Funeral Home. Check the obituary. There should be plenty of seats. I will not ever quit working untill I can't. that said I will retire the day I'm eligible to draw my pension LORD willing and pivot on to something else I enjoy doing. I will be 57 and one month old and hopefully will still be healthy with a lot of life to live.
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Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees
[Re: nvwrangler]
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02/02/25 06:39 PM
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Danny you should see the far books( federal acquisition regulations) it would shoch you there are 2 or 3 books over 6 inches thick with rules on how to spend money, in fact there's a whole industry just to teach us those rules lol. This is one area that needs improvements in the Government. The FARS are complicated and confusing. Even worse, they are expensive. If you need to buy TP, you can't just go to Walmart with a USG card and buy it. You need to buy it from "Lighthouse for the Blind" or whoever has the contract even though it may be cheaper locally. A purchasing agent needs to fill out the paperwork along with correct charge code and then email the form. Once the butt wipe arrives, they need to verify it is all there and then get on the computer to "process" the purchase in the computer program. Once completed, the next level supervisor needs to log into the same system and approve the transaction. Honestly, I bet there are 2-4 man hours spent just to order a case of Mountain Money. It is just crazy.
I have nothing clever to put here.
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Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees
[Re: nvwrangler]
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02/02/25 07:47 PM
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The plan for my department seems to be let those folks accept this offer, force everyone else in office 5 days a week until some quit, rif to the number you want to present to the public. Then bring back mandatory overtime, pay the remaing folks 3 times as much and work them until they break. Then let them go. Then lower the standards and hire unqualified replacements or contract the work out. We'll I am one of those work from home folks and here's what I'll say, I have dedicated my entire adult life to this country, I fought in Iraq and Afghanistan and I serve Veterans and their families everyday. I work an 8.5 hour day from home, I always start at least 30 min early and if there is something unfinished at the end of the day I work it until complete, no matter how long it takes. This is all unpaid I do it because that's what my fellow Veterans deserve.... but I guess in the end that apparently means I'm not a loyal hardworking public servant
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Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees
[Re: Wild_WI]
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02/02/25 07:56 PM
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The plan for my department seems to be let those folks accept this offer, force everyone else in office 5 days a week until some quit, rif to the number you want to present to the public. Then bring back mandatory overtime, pay the remaing folks 3 times as much and work them until they break. Then let them go. Then lower the standards and hire unqualified replacements or contract the work out. We'll I am one of those work from home folks and here's what I'll say, I have dedicated my entire adult life to this country, I fought in Iraq and Afghanistan and I serve Veterans and their families everyday. I work an 8.5 hour day from home, I always start at least 30 min early and if there is something unfinished at the end of the day I work it until complete, no matter how long it takes. This is all unpaid I do it because that's what my fellow Veterans deserve.... but I guess in the end that apparently means I'm not a loyal hardworking public servant You are obviously a rare exception to millions of parasites the Donald is trying to stomp out .....the bleeding has to stop
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Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees
[Re: nvwrangler]
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02/02/25 08:12 PM
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I voted the same as most folks on here I assume, I think those comments are just parroted lines most folks hear. The money / bleeding won't change, it will just be presented differently in public. That same money will be used to hire the "all saving" contractor who is paying off some politician. You'll feel good about yourself and the same amount of money you pay in taxes. Some of these services shouldnt be stopped i.e Veterans services but the money will just be funneled to more lower paid less qualified workers and that will make everyone smile except for Veterans waiting on benefits they have more than earned through their service to this great nation.
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Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees
[Re: Wild_WI]
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02/02/25 08:23 PM
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I voted the same as most folks on here I assume, I think those comments are just parroted lines most folks hear. The money / bleeding won't change, it will just be presented differently in public. That same money will be used to hire the "all saving" contractor who is paying off some politician. You'll feel good about yourself and the same amount of money you pay in taxes. Most of these services shouldnt be stopped i.e Veterans services but the money will just be funneled to more lower paid less qualified workers and that will make everyone smile except for Veterans waiting on benefits they have more than earned through their service to this great nation. not to be disrespectful in anyway. but from a nongovernmental employees perspective. Just take a look at how inefficient every thing the government does is. The post office is the first example I can think of. It's going broke yet UPS, Fed x and DHL make great profits and are typically faster amd more reliable at least I'm my area. The private sector is typically much more efficient.
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Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees
[Re: nvwrangler]
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02/02/25 08:36 PM
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NVW 100% agree, and we do have standards that are measured both by quality raters and daily production plus keystoke and video monitors, clearly something that is not being advertised
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Re: Fork in the road, for federal employees
[Re: Providence Farm]
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02/02/25 09:31 PM
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I voted the same as most folks on here I assume, I think those comments are just parroted lines most folks hear. The money / bleeding won't change, it will just be presented differently in public. That same money will be used to hire the "all saving" contractor who is paying off some politician. You'll feel good about yourself and the same amount of money you pay in taxes. Most of these services shouldnt be stopped i.e Veterans services but the money will just be funneled to more lower paid less qualified workers and that will make everyone smile except for Veterans waiting on benefits they have more than earned through their service to this great nation. not to be disrespectful in anyway. but from a nongovernmental employees perspective. Just take a look at how inefficient every thing the government does is. The post office is the first example I can think of. It's going broke yet UPS, Fed x and DHL make great profits and are typically faster amd more reliable at least I'm my area. The private sector is typically much more efficient. Are you aware how many packages UPS and FEDEX hand off the USPS for final delivery? Especially non profitable items and to areas out of the way and not profitable ? Also....those private companies can raise their rates at any time. USPS has to jump through hoops and get approval from the postal governing board etc to raise a penny. And when they do...people like you complain.....not only that...USPS employees and retirees have been removed from FEHB and been separated to PSHB Postal Service Health Benefits. USPS pool is significantly smaller now raising rates Anyone retiring now will be forced to take Medicare part B when they reach 65. If they don't, they lose their health benefits through USPS. Part B becomes primary payer.....you know..the old Bernie Sanders Medicare for all plan. USPS retirees are the Guinea pigs.....I wonder why the rest of the Feds aren't doing this.....Congress critters sure don't want it.
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