Local online auction has new,unused traps that were found in barn loft
I thought someone here might be interested

What are the bigger DBL with the square pans? I can’t really tell what all is there. But I’m watching them about 3.5 hours away

If you go to the website Schneider Auction the traps are on page 6
When you click the image it will give a detailed description

Blake & Lamb 44 double longs- OMG!

Blake and Lamb 44.

This is less than an hour away. They have some other stuff I’m interested in.

Those stoploss are B&L, 1 1/2 post pan. Still shiny. A hard to find item. Retail value of that box alone is about a grand. Those 44 B&L double longs are $30.00 each at least.

Looks like they are going to sell them by the pallet, which means only a dealer or a very rich trapper can afford them. The auction company is costing their customer money by not splitting them up.

Wish I lived closer. I’d be there with an empty van and a pile of cash.

Any one that lives close by want to work with me on this???

I wish I lived close by. However, it has been mostly my experience that traps go for more than they are worth at a public sale, it would be interesting to see what happens.

They are Blake and Lamb 44 DLS

Holy cow! That is my favorite Beaver trap. Dang.

So what do you think the pallet of traps will actually bring ?
You said only a dealer or rich trapper could afford them

Listing said there was some paperwork from 1969 with some of them

Son has a friend that lives in MO but I don't think it is real close to their location (not close enough to have him pick up and hold or bring to TX on his next visit) or I would seriously consider buying to flip myself.

9.5hrs from my driveway but if they sold for stupid cheap it sounds like it would be well worth a road trip

Too bad, too far for me

Where in MO are they?

Never mind. I see they are in Berger. About an hour from me.

11 hours for me. This is tempting.

Only a three day drive after I get off the ferry. Might swing by.

How many traps you guys think are in each of those barrels? Too bad they didn’t give a quantity unless I missed it

Headed there to get an inventory

I bet they get surprisingly close to full retail if sold on a per trap basis. The auction company should send Mike77 a thank you card for this post.

WOW !
Heck of an auction overall !
Will be interesting to watch .
Thanks

When bidding, don't forget there is a 3% buyer's premium.

3.5 percent buyers premium and 7 percent sales tax

I’d like to see what the K3500 diesel pickup goes for. 1991 and looks nice.

True. But this is an online only auction. My understanding is you are bidding on the entire pallet for one price. Will price most trappers out of the bidding.

Especially if someone leaks the auction on the biggest trapping forum in the world.

Foot traps please not leg traps

yeah, I just called it what they called it.

Any of you actively bidding on any of these?

Too far away from me to jump in

If they are, I'm sure they appreciate you bringing this back to the top of the forum. lol

Has anyone looked at this since bids opened up ? It didn’t take long to get on up there, the one lot is $810.00 this morning . I’m guess before it’s over it will be over $1000.00 . I was showing my wife yesterday then next thing I know she asked if I wanted them almost fell over when she said that .

What a Great Wife

Will be fun to see the end bid!

Did you look really close at that pallet of traps? In my opinion, $1,000.00 would be rather low, based on current retail value of those traps.

Over $3k worth of traps on that auction easy with the other lot included.

8 more days

Bidding seems to have stalled on the larger lot. It has been at $1,025.00 for several days. I wonder if that is the final number. LOL

I think you will see the bidding go wild near the end of the auction.

They probably jumped up 1000.00 since this post LOL. Some online auctions offer shipping but man I bet it would be dear.

For sure. Unless one bidder goes totally nuts.

Yes usually people wait till the last few minutes of bidding time to bid and it can get wild.people get a mindset iam going to buy that and your not getting it I've seen it happen lots of times where stuff goes for more then you could buy new.

Yea, everybody's poor, no one has any money until there's an auction.......Probably be a trapper that gets them.

I'd be surprised if it gets too crazy unless two people just lose their minds. I don't see the trap market being too hot right now especially for 1 1/2 longs. ADC said there $3000 worth of traps there, how much can u pay and make any money on them? Even if u positively could sell them for 3000 in a snap of the fingers I'd need a pretty good margin just to go get them.

I think $3000 is a pretty low estimate now that I can get a better idea of what's there. They can all be hauled in a pick up so really only gas money. 4.5 hours from here. I could haul them all in our car if I left the barrels there, cost under $80 for gas. I'm not interested in them though.

My time isn't free

Mine is. lol

Ur hired

Hi bidder is from Ohio.

Iowa is winning them now. Hopefully if someone on here wins them they will give an inventory and some more pics

They have a very basic inventory listed. Very basic but not bad for a company that doesn’t usuallly deal in traps.

I’m thinking the bidding will be quiet until it is about 12 hours to close. Then it will get exciting.

They are at ROUGHLY a $6 average now with almost a week left to go.

Still a Deal

Almost all of the 44’s are undersprings.

In the early 1980's I got a chance to buy abot12 dozen Victor1.5 &1,75 coil spring traps that where new in the box They where for sale by people wanting to get out of trapping I paid about 22 or 24 dollars a dozen which was the going rate at the time Along with the new traps I also got a number of used traps at fair prices Over the next 25to 30 years most of the new traps remained in the boxes they came from the factory in And in some cases the used traps where either put to use or sold And I moved them a number of times over the years After about those 30 years of them moving from one work bench to another shelf to yet some other location I sold them to a 20 something year old new trapper l knew the guy and he was a good trapper considering he was just learning the way things should be done He was a smart new dedicated to the image that all trappers should promote He was not looking to pick a fight with a non trapper but neither was he planning on running from one I sold him new in the box traps that were about 30 year old that got on buy out deals for about $22 a dozen And sold them to him for about $85 a dozen And he was thrilled to death because the same traps where selling for about 105 to 110 a dozen plus shipping at the time He asked me 3 times if I was charging enough and not losing my butt on a sweetheart deal I did not go into details but I told hm I was do doing OK compared to what I paid for them at buy out prices I have made some effort at times and have of doubled tripled and even more in a number of cases but you need to ask yourself what your cash flow can handle I think right now there is more to be made buying and selling traps and gear then there is to be made trapping fur

Very helpful to know. Thanks

Wow, even some 2 1/2 single long springs, we're talking late 70's vintage on this stuff. In addition to the 44's, it looks like there are some 4's also. Blake and Lamb had springs that where much superior to the Victors. These would be fantastic user trap, but it would be kind of a shame to use them.

I remember those 2 1/2's in the catalogs, they never caught on, what were they primarily geared to/for?

They seemed to be too big for most stuff and too small for the rest. There was a western state that they were popular in due to some law about SINGLE spring traps. Kansas maybe?

Was Oklahoma but I don't know if it's still that way.

Can't be a Virgin forever, more of a shame to have them sit in boxes hoping to make a few bucks in 20 years rather than have them dyed and in the dirt.

He's just saying that to keep the bids down so he can get them. Them possum cops can't be trusted, even in retirement.

Good point. I will keep that in mind when figuring my bid.

Dang, i was hoping everyone would have forgotten about these,

I feel a road trip coming up!

I bid a lot ,not sure if I’ll keep going lol .

#44 B&L Double Longsprings ?
Road trip !

Yeah, I could get stupid over those for sentimental reasons. The #44 DUS, not so much.

It’s a package deal - you have to buy everything on that pallet. Exact number of #44 double longs is unknown. Bid on that pallet is right at $1,000.00

It's just money Nancy. You can't take it with you.

2 days to go .... I think I'm out.

If I had the free cash laying around...

I wish I had the time to go pick them up. I suspect they'll still go much higher.

I believe you're right

We could run a little lottery here.
Guess the closing prices.

Lot 270 $2300
Lot 271 $1800
Lot 272 $ 375

Closest to the ending prices wins.
3 chances to win.

270- $1,550
271-$2,650
272- $360

270- $2150
271- $1675
272- $235

270=2000
271=1510
272=300

1575
1725
275

1,625
1,675
250

You do you think will get them?

Fox?

Looks like Ohio bidder is on Top

There are some western cat and coyote trappers that like the 2 1/2 single long for setting in tight spaces. That extra spring on a #3 takes up space. A B&L 2 1/2 is plenty strong.

Who do I think will get those traps?? Maybe some one in idaho!!? LOL

So the 2 1/2 is a 3 with just one spring?

No the jaws are not symmetrical they are rounded on the opposite of the spring. They are their own traps. Some #1's are the same way, not designed to use a second spring.

Too rich for me. Fun to watch though. Maybe some will show up on here?

$6.70/trap average before the 3.5% on the traps on the pallet. $10.15 ea for the ones in the barrels, currently. Still money to made. It takes money to make money they say. These are higher dollar to collectors, and the fans of the B&L traps. There are some hidden gems in there too IMO.

$1825.00

$1875.00

$144.00


Dang!

Just left there from handling them.
They belonged to Bill Pruitt. (Not spelling the name correctly). An old fur buyer from St. Louis.
The guy who bought his place found them in a shed and put them on the auction.
Too many 44 double under springs in the mix. They aren’t worth much.

I think I recognize that name from the 70s and 80s when I was first starting out in the fur business.

Funny thing about old fur buyers and their stashes of new traps. You should have seen Joe Garcia’s collection, makes this one look small. Garcia was a buyer in central and Northern California in the 50s and 60s. Never met him.

I'm right about there being a couple "sleepers" in there though, I bet. ? I bet there aren't many trap collectors that have a new old stock #44 DUS in their collections. They may be worth more than you think. You're right about their value as users.

That's a major bummer.

I figured them as hard as I can work my pencil.
They are already higher than I can sell them for.
Plus add on the over 10 percent tax and buyers premium.
I’m out, and I’m at the Missouri fur auction 24 miles away from them.
I’ve bought a sold a few traps. Won’t work for me.

There’s a lot of them out there Jayme.
It’s a nice set of traps though.

3 hrs to go ........
Higher than I was expecting already.

wow
5350
3400
415
70

Higher than I thought it would go

2 people got into a bidding war at the end . Illinois and Ohio. Illinois won. Sort of like a Big 10 football game!!!

$8750 for 435 traps eh.
$20.11 ea.
Maybe there was stuff in there we didn't see ?
WOW

How many Newhouse traps are on the bottom?

You'll have to ask the guys who were actually there to see them in person.

I’m tellin ya, someone is out of their mind lol.
I handled every trap.
One lot brought 2x what I could sell them for and the other brought 3x what I could sell them for.
I’m hauling a load down there soon for the next sale lol.

Maybe you're just a bad salesman Clay. LOL So how many Newhouse were in there and what other treasures that you couldn't see in the pictures?

It'll be interesting to see if any of them come up for sale in the Trap Shed.

I sure would like to get my hands on some the those 1-1/2 B&L stoploss.

KRE that was my do everything trap in the '50 and '60s. Mainly coon, grey fox and very few reds they all were caught in that trap. Of course muskrats and occasionally mink..... Long time ago.......jk Oh and they were 50 cents each at the furrier in Union NJ

Online auctions are the best…. For the seller.

And occasionally for the buyer. I’ve snagged a few good deals. Not very often but it does happen.

Claycreech - you are wrong about that. There were TWO people out of their minds. Takes more than one bidder to drive prices that high!! But I agree that price is a money loser any way you look at it.

Touché mam!
You are absolutely correct!

Must have been some good stuff buried in that pile?

Someone posted they were going over to inspect them I thought?
Maybe they can shed some light on that?

Except for that one Newhouse that ADC pointed out, I don’t think there was anything special on either pallet. I saw a list on the pallet with the 3 barrels, it is just a bunch of user traps, admittedly they are new.

Plus shipping or at least the trip to get them....

I can't help but think that someone is going to have some "Buyers Remorse".

Pretty crazy prices, probably bought by some anti trappers. They already have them melted down

The breakout of what’s in the barrels is as below.

26- #44 DLS
22-#4 DLS
11-#44 DUS
40-#2 stop loss (you mentioned these had #2 pans but are #1.5)
7-#2 Montgomery step-in coil spring used
24-#1 DLS
43-# 2 1/2 SLS
1- 1 1/2 stop loss
2- #21 under spring used or at least rusted
2- Victor 3N original but very heavy rust and misaligned
5- #2 SLS used

There was 2 #3 Newhouse in one of the cardboard barrels. One was badly damaged. Not the really old ones.
Oneida Community. Nothing to get excited about.

Between the 2 lots there was 18 dozen 1 1/2 stoploss.

NOS bear traps, watch your local flea markets, antique shops and fleabay.

Is that the total amount or just one barrell?

That was what was in the lot with the 3 cardboard barrels.