Well this popped up on my feed ( it's 30sec long ) Don't care about the political side just the economics of it..did a little reading on the matter and it's..... Well I'm not sure, there much truth to this or ?

https://youtube.com/shorts/GPTrPY4Wo8A?si=2AkbHkD_ARCbZWb9

I'm guessing she's not far off.

That angry woman is full of crap. Women Infants Children was started to make sure women, infants and children got the essential nutrition they needed to develop properly.

Keith

This is the long version. Her view comes from slightly left of Karl Marx, and the whole thing is a lot more complicated than she knows. Things have evolved from the old Commodity Credit days to current status of WIC and ebt cards. There is a difference in work ethic between an illegal migrant who must work or starve and one who is able to survive on the public dole.......no work required. What she seems most upset about is her vote buying schemes aren't working in places like Missouri.

All government programs that hand out money to those that arent employed by it, though most govt employees are just glorified welfare recipients apparently with what DOGE is finding, is a subsidy.

Farmers are the last ones we need to worry about!

I would much prefer that my church and local community look out for truly poor women and children. Or here's a novel idea, the fathers can do it. Or, the mothers can get a job or better job. I realize it's complicated with children.

As for farmers benefitting from food stamps, WIC, etc, on a macro scale the programs probably do boost demand.

I have no clue whether that was the (an) intent of the programs and neither does the gal in the video.

Slash the programs. I see the recipients at the grocery store. I can't remember seeing one that was skinny. If we cut off the food, they'll live long enough to get a job.

And the farmers will be fine.

Her entire point seems to be that all agriculture should be government funded, always and forever. Am I misreading this?

The plan is for Government to raise taxes to the point Government own the farmland. And housing.

I wasn't sure she had a point. Poor version of Lisa Loeb was just rambling.

It might be safe to say there has been some type of farm program ever since the days of Joseph in Egypt, when there was 7 years of plenty and then climate change caused 7 years of lean times. If there was anything to learn from that it was to be prepared for what mother nature delivers rather than trying to change the climate.

I really don't understand what the gal is trying to get across unless it is to say gov gives away food to create more demand for the farmer? People don't need an incentive to eat. Nature seems to have required that any living thing has to eat, so the demand was set into the motion from the beginning. As with most things the trick is to equalize the balance between the haves and the haves not.

Are farmers people too? I saw a bad example of that years ago when I stopped at a convenience store to get gas. I went in to pay and was 4th inline to pay. At the front of the line was a young girl with a 1 year old on her hip paying for a gallon of milk with some type of food stamp thing. The guy in front of me whom I recognized as a big farmer whom at every farm and/or coop meeting always had a pet peeve about something. Anyway he turns around to me and says, I wish I could get my milk free! He was one of the farmers in the county that had divided his farm with his two sons so they could get around the limits (of free handouts) per farm set by the ASCS back then. Well he gave me the hammer and nail to jab him then and there but I was still as a mouse and didn't use the opportunity. I wasn't as seasoned then as now maybe?

Most farmers aren't looking for something free, but just a free market. When that's interfered with then comes the prop ups.

The animal nature in us seems all to willing to be the first to throw our perceived competition into the well without the ingenuity to realize that maybe someday we may have to make a long trip to get the help we need and have to hope there is no grudge held by those whom we have wronged in some way along the way!

Sure worked well during Lenin/Stalin's Russia.

What her main beef seemed to be is that farmers like my family don't share her deep blue beliefs. We don't agree with her.

FWIW, as far as I know, we don't get ANY government payments. Income comes from sale of crops, less expenses, backed up by crop insurance, which offers break even opportunity.....at a cost.

Americans like their farmers poor and hard scrabble. Tom Joad is their favorite. Nothing breeds jealousy and contempt like success. Just ask the Jews.

As far as the church having the authority or the care of the orphans and widows. Wasn't that one of the problems before our for fathers came here. If you didn't do as the church said you were cut off and left to starve. Taking care of the orphans and widows can get messy even in the church. Stephen was a shining example of that in the old church and the roots are still in todays.

Well if we get rid of all of the illegals there should be plenty of jobs so the. These people can get off of welfare,wic what have you.never going to happen but you can wish.

I thought it already was.

The corporate farms are to a point and the few tobacco guys left.

Other than people getting free to them food the biggest beneficiaries are grocery stores.

Big D's excuse for wanting to continue slavery was farmers would go broke. Seems things have not changed much with the claim we need to be able to exploit illegals.

they were still going broke until the cotton gin was invented. Why that guy gets no ire always amazed me. Maybe because they dont study history very well.