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Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: Rat Masterson] #8354955
02/28/25 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Captain crunch is bad for you, and so is the government.



I can live without government......but I need my captain crunch


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Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: waggler] #8354974
02/28/25 09:43 PM
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Seen it before. They cut back where it will affect the public the most to get the biggest outcry against cuts. When they had those government shutdowns due to not passing a continuing resolution, they closed all the NPS trails around here even though nobody ever manned them. Then they had NPS LE working overtime to enforce the closures.

Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: waggler] #8354987
02/28/25 10:05 PM
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Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: waggler] #8354988
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Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: waggler] #8354994
02/28/25 10:25 PM
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Our counties FSA office is administered jointly with two adjoining counties but does have a office here and usually has at least one person on site. All week I have been trying to contact them by phone. The local soil and water district occupies the other half of the building and shares the phone system. The soil and water personnel told me twice that FSA was not in the office. Today I was told they had been working all week in the adjoining County on some priority deadline. To my knowledge this has never happened before. I think Elon should be notified that there is a county FSA office in MO that might as well be closed because FSA chooses not to man it.

Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: waggler] #8355019
02/28/25 11:58 PM
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For many years if not decades there have been FSA offices or at least the Agents or loan officers etc. that have served multiple counties as the acres stay the same pretty much but the number of farm owners has decreased a lot in many areas. There are administrative assistants etc. that many times staff offices so farmers in the counties can come in to report crops, projects etc. It may be different in some areas but here in WI where numbers of farms are fewer with fewer owners serving multiple counties has been a standard practice.

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Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: waggler] #8355257
03/01/25 10:25 AM
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Yeah Bryce, that's the reality we're in. I've served a couple of terms on county committee. What seems new here is the apparent masking of someone's decision to not staff one office over another. I hope it's only temporary but I get the feeling that it won't be long before the one in my county closes. If they are not going to openly communicate staffing hours they might as well close shop now. Amazing how much things have changed in ten years.

Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: waggler] #8355260
03/01/25 10:30 AM
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If they fire every non-military Federal employee, I think they will trim 100 billion off the 1800 billion deficit.


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Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: waggler] #8355271
03/01/25 10:41 AM
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It's not unreasonable to want people who were working from home to come back to the office and work. That's just good business.


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Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: Tommyran] #8355282
03/01/25 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Tommyran
Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Captain crunch is bad for you, and so is the government.


Especially the current government. But you'll find out soon enough.


Especially the current government in NY, and we have already found out and know how bad it is.

Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: waggler] #8355324
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Captain Crunch is delicious.

Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: waggler] #8355495
03/01/25 03:53 PM
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There are 2 categories of federal workers. 'Essential' and 'Non-essential'. Whenever there is a government shutdown due to failure to pass the budget, they inform all of the essential federal workers to report to work without a paycheck, but they will eventually be payed for that time once the budget passes.
They inform all of the non-essential federal workers to stay at home without pay, but they are payed for that time even though they didn't work.
My suggestion is to mow down the non-essential federal workers and leave the essential federal workers alone.

Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: 52Carl] #8355557
03/01/25 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
There are 2 categories of federal workers. 'Essential' and 'Non-essential'. Whenever there is a government shutdown due to failure to pass the budget, they inform all of the essential federal workers to report to work without a paycheck, but they will eventually be payed for that time once the budget passes.
They inform all of the non-essential federal workers to stay at home without pay, but they are payed for that time even though they didn't work.
My suggestion is to mow down the non-essential federal workers and leave the essential federal workers alone.


Yes ! Absolutely.


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Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: waggler] #8355574
03/01/25 06:00 PM
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I’m working for the USDA right now but that might end later this month.


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Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: Trapper7] #8355584
03/01/25 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
It's not unreasonable to want people who were working from home to come back to the office and work. That's just good business.

I* had enough of that working from home crap the last 4 years phone calls that don't get answered and a message that says leave a message and i'll get back to you in 72 hours or someone who grunts and groans and mumbles
Matter of fact had enough of everything thats happened in the last 4 years


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Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: waggler] #8355607
03/01/25 06:32 PM
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Some counter comments to some on this thread.

1. Unions. Some agencies have them, and some do not. I don't know what the ratio is over the entire federal government. I think my agency used to for a some workers back when they were physically printing off a certain product, basically a blue collar job. Now those products, and all of our "products" (I sort of hate that word) are digital. No union in my center.

2. "Essential" versus "Non-essential". I don't know who came up with those terms but in our case, "essential" really means "emergency level of staffing". Whether "essential" actually means allowing any "public facing" services going or just keeping say satellites flying and not getting out of orbit and burning up in re-entry is probably in the details somewhere. I'll ask some folks on Monday about a "service" that I suspect most tman people have touched or used over time and who would update that "product" and how much additional it would cost if it was 100% privatized.

3. The USDA FSA was mentioned in a couple of times and I just saw that in South Dakota either a regional office or a major county office was getting their non GSA lease pulled. I did the math that was in the news story and I figured out it was about $30 a sq foot for a year. I don't know where that places in the general price of commercial real estate leasing. However, the way I understand what FSA does is that they work with individual farmers with all the various backstop programs they can enroll in as they operate . Yeah, people might spout the words to just let "freedom" (total free market work) but we'll see how well that actually flies in U.S. agriculture commodity trading and final consumer production that is concentrated into a few dozen massive corporations that control most food items found in the grocery stores or how ag commodities are traded around the world. I suspect without any fed government backstop programs AND the continued control of both ag commodity trade and making ag inputs into finished food, I suspect most typical American farms (sales of $100,000 to several million each year) would be bankrupt over time. Then we might see how well everyone lives off of the land. I suspect there would have to be a massive, massive reduction in population to reach multi-geographic scales of "equilibrium".

Finally, the DoDGE boys and girls (literally) "What 5 Things Did You Do Last Week" e-mail got a bit more timely the second time around, dropping here (Central Time) just before 9pm Friday evening instead at almost 4 pm last Saturday. Pretty easy, I'll cut and paste 4 of my 5 from last week, drop one, and add a new one. My bullets were fairly complex, I wonder if any of the AI bots "scratched their heads" on some of the details? Elon baby should tell us how many totally unique responses they got from last week (uniquely different tasks). I suspect they will get many new bullets (tasks) this week. We'll see...


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
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Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: waggler] #8355611
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P.S. Our building isn't maintained/owned by the GSA. Its actually owned by my department or agency. The overall property has an unique ownership history. The way I understand it, the federal government ended up paying a buck for it from an local economic development entity that had leased it to the government for 20 years when the land first got bought from several farm families.


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Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: trapdog1] #8355618
03/01/25 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Captain Crunch is delicious.


I switched to Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: bowhunter27295] #8355636
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
All emails are public record. If they are on the clock and don’t answer they get written up for poor performance based on previous times emails were answered. There are necessary people. There are leeches also. I work in government. I see it all the time.

So we need to stop using a phone and send emails for all of our questions. Then there would be no excuse to "NOT PICKUP THE PHONE" as an email can be answered when there is available time. Government emails are beginning to be monitored much more closely (according to MUSK). For the record, I like the trim back nonessential government workers sentiment, but I'm not so sure I'm enthralled with the image of Elon with a chainsaw. It takes time and effort to separate wheat from chaff.

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Re: Have Federal agencies gone on strike [Re: NonPCfed] #8355638
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Originally Posted by NonPCfed
Some counter comments to some on this thread.

1. Unions. Some agencies have them, and some do not. I don't know what the ratio is over the entire federal government. I think my agency used to for a some workers back when they were physically printing off a certain product, basically a blue collar job. Now those products, and all of our "products" (I sort of hate that word) are digital. No union in my center.

2. "Essential" versus "Non-essential". I don't know who came up with those terms but in our case, "essential" really means "emergency level of staffing". Whether "essential" actually means allowing any "public facing" services going or just keeping say satellites flying and not getting out of orbit and burning up in re-entry is probably in the details somewhere. I'll ask some folks on Monday about a "service" that I suspect most tman people have touched or used over time and who would update that "product" and how much additional it would cost if it was 100% privatized.

3. The USDA FSA was mentioned in a couple of times and I just saw that in South Dakota either a regional office or a major county office was getting their non GSA lease pulled. I did the math that was in the news story and I figured out it was about $30 a sq foot for a year. I don't know where that places in the general price of commercial real estate leasing. However, the way I understand what FSA does is that they work with individual farmers with all the various backstop programs they can enroll in as they operate . Yeah, people might spout the words to just let "freedom" (total free market work) but we'll see how well that actually flies in U.S. agriculture commodity trading and final consumer production that is concentrated into a few dozen massive corporations that control most food items found in the grocery stores or how ag commodities are traded around the world. I suspect without any fed government backstop programs AND the continued control of both ag commodity trade and making ag inputs into finished food, I suspect most typical American farms (sales of $100,000 to several million each year) would be bankrupt over time. Then we might see how well everyone lives off of the land. I suspect there would have to be a massive, massive reduction in population to reach multi-geographic scales of "equilibrium".

Finally, the DoDGE boys and girls (literally) "What 5 Things Did You Do Last Week" e-mail got a bit more timely the second time around, dropping here (Central Time) just before 9pm Friday evening instead at almost 4 pm last Saturday. Pretty easy, I'll cut and paste 4 of my 5 from last week, drop one, and add a new one. My bullets were fairly complex, I wonder if any of the AI bots "scratched their heads" on some of the details? Elon baby should tell us how many totally unique responses they got from last week (uniquely different tasks). I suspect they will get many new bullets (tasks) this week. We'll see...


I am willing to bet this lights a fire under the buts of a bunch of Federal employees and an increase in productivity is on the horizon.

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